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11/22/2016 7:36:03 AM
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First [u]public[/u] antismoking campaign.
Not to mention the reason that was started were heavily based on reproduction policies. Women who smoked were seen as unfit mothers and wives. Mainly because they believed smoking caused more stillbirths and they expected women to be as reproductive as possible.
The campaign for antismoking was bittersweet since it was less about health reasons and more about women being top of the line wives and birthers.
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Are you triggered because your a female?
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What? Where did you get that? I only elaborated on the history.
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He wrote, and stated multiple times, that he hated smoking being it corrupted the bodies of the "perfect arian race" and limited his soldiers effectiveness on the battlefield.
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So I expanded and explained more on your history lesson and you're saying I'm wrong it was actually this reason. While that may have been one of the reasons, you need to do a little history searching and see otherwise. Nåzi Germany, while it advanced in medical science on tobacco smoke and it's hazards, was wanting women to have no rights and be nothing but birthers and wives for its perfect race. So when an opinion by Martin Staemmler claimed smoking caused stillbirths, threatening their perfect birthing "machines" you can best believe the Nåzis did what they can to stop smoking.
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[quote]So I expanded and explained more on your history lesson and you're saying I'm wrong it was actually this reason.[/quote] He didn't say you were wrong, he literally did this ^ as well. But I know you can't see this because you never understand how people can expand on your points without disagreeing.
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But he didn't just expand, he instead brought another reason it happened. He didn't say agree with me, and he brought another point, not to expand but to counter. As for you getting personal at the end, that is quite rude of you since you've never had a discussion with me before. Sure you observed, but have you seen my opponent's responses to mine? Yeah, try not to be ignorant until you actually have a discussion with me. Please and thank you.
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He brought another reason. He never said he disagreed with you. Actually, I have had a discussion with you, where you enforced everything I said in my previous response.
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Edited by Sainyule: 11/23/2016 8:51:46 PMWe've never had a discussion before and he didn't just bring a point to elaborate he brought it to counter, look at the wording.
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Just because you do not remember the discussion does not mean it did not happen. Your ignorance is showing again.
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I know tons of people I've had discussions with and dealt with, and you are not one of them. You've either changed your name or your icon because neither remind me of a discussion with you whatsoever, yet instead of trying to help me remember if we've ever had a debate you insist on insulting me. Not, "We did have a discussion on this topic." Hell, maybe I don't remember because it was just two comments. Maybe I don't remember because it wasn't an actual discussion. No, it's because of ignorance. So, instead of being a pretentious asshole how about you remind me hmm? Or is that too much for you to remember as well?
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Your lack of memory is not what I'm calling ignorant. What is ignorant is that just because you cannot remember you say it didn't happen. Our discussion was on the meaning of dreams, and you were unable to accept that just because I had an alternative viewpoint that didn't mean I disagreed with you, hence why I brought up that point here.
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You [i]did[/i] change your username and icon so I am technically correct. You had a different username during the dreams discussion. I've never debated with a "Ghostmine" before. That's completely unfair then. You can't expect me to pay attention to some random user changing their name and then call me ignorant. That's very poor behavior. So, how about to tone down that attitude since you tricked me. I don't know the user behind the account, only the username so when you come here and say I'm ignorant when you basically arrive in disguise is pretty deceitful and rude.
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It's possible that I changed my icon, but there is no excuse for not recognising me other than poor memory because my username has not changed. So your ignorance is still intact, as you blame my supposed disguise for your lack of memory.
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No, literally you had both a different icon and name or I would remember. If I can remember debates with Lincoln, Steve of Steves, max, gravy, knowledge, and more, it's because their names never changed. You can't accuse me of ignorance when you changed your name and icon. You just refuse to admit it due to the fact if you admit it, you're wrong, your accusations are wrong, and you can't admit when you're wrong can you? Maturity comes with being able to know when you're wrong.
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[quote]Maturity comes with being able to know when you're wrong.[/quote] It admits it's immature after all this time. I "literally" haven't changed my name since we last spoke, so obviously your memory isn't as good as you believe.
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But I'm not wrong at all, I've never debated with a Ghostmine. You refuse to admit your name change. If you want to continue to act like a child be all means do what you want, I have other people to have discussions with. If you dont want to admit it then live in your reality. I have other things to deal with.
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[quote]But I'm not wrong at all[/quote] [quote]acting childish[/quote] I'm sorry, who is acting like a child? Let me repeat myself: I have not changed my name since last we spoke. If you want to deny facts because your memory fails you, go ahead. Live in your reality. Embrace your delusions. They suit you well.
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What exactly is wrong with wanting your women to be healthy.
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[quote]it was less about health reasons and more about women being top of the line wives and birthers[/quote] I hate repeating myself
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So you literally got nothing. Got it!
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Edited by Sainyule: 11/22/2016 3:58:47 PMI don't see how asking a question that was already answered and then repeating the answer is "not having anything."
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[quote]What exactly is wrong with wanting your women to be healthy.[/quote]I hate repeating myself
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That's not the point and you know it. They didnt care about their welfare, they cared about their ability to serve their Nåzi reproduction ideology purpose.
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Caring about the health of a society's children is inherently to care about the health of a society's women. In order to have the healthiest children you must have the healthiest parents. If you don't care about the welfare of the women then you don't care about the welfare of the children, and vice verse. Caring about women's health is caring about the health of an entire civilization. It's in the best interest of men, women, and children, to have a healthy society.
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And I agree, but caring about a woman's health is different than only caring about their health because they're viewed as nothing more than wives that serve their men and give birth to perfect children. An antismoking campaign directed to women was not for their interest in their wellbeing. The interest was in how they need to stay healthy to serve the German man and the Nåzis regimes needs. Not because they cared about the welfare of their women.
