[quote]Not all cops are racist, but the way they enforce laws are racist and biased against poor minorites.[/quote] How? You failed to explain.

Writing white kids tickets while minorities go to jail for the same infraction. Stopping black men on the street and searching them while they don't do the same thing to whites. Pulling black people over for minor traffic infractions as an excuse to search them and their vehicles.The list goes on and on. Our entire judicial system is rigged against poor people and people of color. Anyone that says otherwise is either lying or just completely unaware of what police departments are really like. White people raise their kids to trust cops and to go to them when they need help. Black people have to teach their sons what not to do so they don't get shot by them. It's a completely different dynamic when black people and white people interact with police officers. If you don't believe me, just ask any young black man living in a large city in America today what they think about cops. Just because black people have the right to vote, and they aren't getting lynched or having attack dogs and fire hoses turned on them anymore doesn't mean that racism has ended in this country. It continually amazes me the number of middle class white kids today that try to tell black people how racism free our country is.

[quote]Writing white kids tickets while minorities go to jail for the same infraction.[/quote] Evidence? Also note that repeat offenders receive harsher penalties for the same crime. [quote]Stopping black men on the street and searching them while they don't do the same thing to whites. Pulling black people over for minor traffic infractions as an excuse to search them and their vehicles.The list goes on and on. Our entire judicial system is rigged against poor people and people of color.[/quote] You assume that it's motivated purely by race and class. Could it be that high-crime areas (often black neighborhoods) are policed more often because they're high crime areas, instead of because they're black neighborhoods? [quote]White people raise their kids to trust cops and to go to them when they need help. Black people have to teach their sons what not to do so they don't get shot by them. It's a completely different dynamic when black people and white people interact with police officers. If you don't believe me, just ask any young black man living in a large city in America today what they think about cops.[/quote] This is just an appeal to emotion. There's no evidence to support this. Furthermore, there's nothing tangible here either. I could ask a young black man what he thinks about cops, but is that indicative of the general state of affairs? [quote]Just because black people have the right to vote, and they aren't getting lynched or having attack dogs and fire hoses turned on them anymore doesn't mean that racism has ended in this country. It continually amazes me the number of middle class white kids today that try to tell black people how racism free our country is.[/quote] Could it be that the ills of the black community are self-inflicted?

[quote] Could it be that the ills of the black community are self-inflicted?[/quote] Or could it be that the black community are the victims of a country that has done everything it can to keep them poor and uneducated? I'm not naive enough to say that every person that is arrested by the cops is an innocent victim of this vast, racist conspiracy. But, I think that the problems that are going on in the black community are the result of 250+ years of systemic abuse by a society that refuses to accept it's culpability for what happened in our past. If the situations were reversed, and white people were the ones growing up in ghettos with no jobs, and bad schools how do you think we would act? Criminality isn't a function of a person's race. It's a result of environment.

[quote]Or could it be that the black community are the victims of a country that has done everything it can to keep them poor and uneducated?[/quote] That's simply not the case. If racism was the problem, the black community would be doing better than they were in the 60's, when racism was far more pervasive. They've only fallen since about the 70's. Blaming the problems on racism in "the system" is just plain wrong. [quote]But, I think that the problems that are going on in the black community are the result of 250+ years of systemic abuse by a society that refuses to accept it's culpability for what happened in our past.[/quote] Again, that would mean that American blacks would be doing better in a comparatively less racist system. They aren't. [quote]If the situations were reversed, and white people were the ones growing up in ghettos with no jobs, and bad schools how do you think we would act? Criminality isn't a function of a person's race. It's a result of environment.[/quote] I'm not trying to say that a certain race is more likely to be criminal. However, the poor environment isn't caused by racism. The environment has been created by the breakdown of the black family, which began under Lyndon Baines Johnson's Great Society. Single-motherhood is heavily-subsidized, which pushes fathers out of the picture. The majority of black children grow up in single-mother households, which is linked to poor academic achievement and chronic poverty.

I'm too tired to copy and paste everything you said and respond to it, but I'll go point by point OK? 1. Just because we aren't lynching people doesn't mean that our society is any less racist than it used to be. You seem to be a prime example of that to be honest. And are you seriously trying to tell me that you think inner city schools receive the same amount of funding or resources that suburban schools do? 2. You don't change two and half centuries of neglect and abuse in 40 years. Especially not in a country where people still live in places that wave the Confederate flag and then teach their children that it's not a symbol of hate. It is. I live in the South. I know better. And once again, there is a difference between overt and covert racism. Just because the one isn't socially acceptable outside of places like where I live doesn't mean the other doesn't exist. 3. Maybe, just maybe the reason why there are so many black kids growing up without fathers is they've been locked up in prison for offenses that a white man would have been given probation for? I do like how you managed to blame a Democrat for it though, that was pretty well done. You people are persistent, I'll give you that.

[quote]Just because we aren't lynching people doesn't mean that our society is any less racist than it used to be. [/quote] Are you trying to tell me that the U.S. is just as racist as it was during the era of the KKK and Jim Crow? Do you have [i]any[/i] reasoning to support this? [quote]You seem to be a prime example of that to be honest.[/quote] If you're going to call me a racist, do it openly. [quote]And are you seriously trying to tell me that you think inner city schools receive the same amount of funding or resources that suburban schools do?[/quote] This question doesn't show anything. Can you provide evidence that shows a noticeable gap in funding and resources between suburban and inner-city schools? This is a poor deflection of the single-motherhood point. It's clear that children in single-mother households have lower levels of academic achievement. (https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/02/25/report-marks-growing-educational-disadvantage-children-single-parent-families) (http://scholarworks.wmich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1044&context=hilltopreview) (http://www.familyfacts.org/briefs/35/family-structure-and-childrens-education) [quote]You don't change two and half centuries of neglect and abuse in 40 years. Especially not in a country where people still live in places that wave the Confederate flag and then teach their children that it's not a symbol of hate. It is. I live in the South. I know better. And once again, there is a difference between overt and covert racism. Just because the one isn't socially acceptable outside of places like where I live doesn't mean the other doesn't exist.[/quote] You're still operating under the assumption that barriers to certain races are just as tangible today as they were under Jim Crow. This is ignorant. The law used to deliberately hold blacks back. Today, in some cases, it singles them out for support. Racism in the 60's had far more impact than racism today does. You can say otherwise, but you've neglected to substantiate it. Your appeal to emotion regarding the Confederate Flag does not validate anything. There's a fundamental difference between somebody waving a Confederate Flag and somebody actively segregating you. [quote]Maybe, just maybe the reason why there are so many black kids growing up without fathers is they've been locked up in prison for offenses that a white man would have been given probation for?[/quote] You have yet to show that criminal sentencing is racially imbalanced. If you do manage it, make sure to control for repeat offenders. [quote]I do like how you managed to blame a Democrat for it though, that was pretty well done. You people are persistent, I'll give you that.[/quote] This isn't an argument. Condescension is not a substitute for a rebuttal.

I'm sitting here reading your excuses to try and hide the fact that racism is still against us, and my conclusion is you've never been around us enough. You truly speak from an uneducated way of LIFE, not statistics and evidence. In 2009 I had to pay a judge in South Carolina under the table, outside of the court house just so he would send me to jail "just because"could you find the evidence anywhere of that? No .state of columbia slapped a drug charge one my record that I CANT EVEN FIND THE ORIGIN OF it. Those are just a few out of several injustices but since you want evidence it must be false right? Lol this shit is happening to is wether you want it to or not. Educate yourself before you try to make up excuses and dodge what's real over some "evidence" or proof. You have all the videos in the world of injustice and yet you still wanna try and hide it. So ignorant that it's sad. But hey you don't have those types of problems with the world so it must not be true right? Smh go tel those families who's lost fathers sons uncles brothers and nephews that you need "proof" that the system isn't racially rigged...

[quote]I'm sitting here reading your excuses to try and hide the fact that racism is still against us, and my conclusion is you've never been around us enough.[/quote] Not an argument. [quote]You truly speak from an uneducated way of LIFE, not statistics and evidence. In 2009 I had to pay a judge in South Carolina under the table, outside of the court house just so he would send me to jail "just because"could you find the evidence anywhere of that? No[/quote] Anecdotal evidence is not indicative of larger trends. [quote]state of columbia slapped a drug charge one my record that I CANT EVEN FIND THE ORIGIN OF it. Those are just a few out of several injustices but since you want evidence it must be false right?[/quote] I'm not saying it's false. It doesn't matter if it's true or not. Your personal experiences don't represent the bigger picture. [quote]Lol this shit is happening to is wether you want it to or not. Educate yourself before you try to make up excuses and dodge what's real over some "evidence" or proof.[/quote] You're still using your personal experiences to dismiss the arguments that I've put forth. That's weak. Address my points. [quote]You have all the videos in the world of injustice and yet you still wanna try and hide it.[/quote] Videos of isolated incidents don't prove anything. They're just as worthless as anecdotes. You have to look at larger trends. Are you unwilling to believe that incarceration rates match crime rates, and that the ills of the black community are due to the collapse of the family structure? [quote]So ignorant that it's sad. But hey you don't have those types of problems with the world so it must not be true right? Smh go tel those families who's lost fathers sons uncles brothers and nephews that you need "proof" that the system isn't racially rigged...[/quote] Worthless appeal to emotion. Absolutely worthless. If you're going to try and tell me that a half-decade of social collapse within a certain demographic is due to systematic racism, I'm going to ask for definitive proof. Don't paint me a sad picture with personal tales of injustice.

Lol keep on ignoring the truth. People are still dying over this situation so your twisted, uneducated and naive opinion holds no weight...

[quote]Lol keep on ignoring the truth.[/quote] Your arrogance is astounding. Aside from (frankly, dubious) personal stories and emotional appeals, you haven't given me one reason to buy what you're selling. [quote]People are still dying over this situation so your twisted, uneducated and naive opinion holds no weight...[/quote] I've put forward a pretty direct argument. Is this supposed to be a rebuttal? It's a poor one.

So you look at this as an argument eh? Lol go about your life bro. Nothing to talk about abymore

[quote]So you look at this as an argument eh?[/quote] You're trying to change people's mind about something, so yes. At some point, calling them racist and ignorant isn't going to cut it. Throw out a legitimate claim, back it up, and maybe you'll get somewhere.

I don't know of your white or not but if so your the first I've seen to actually admit that.