Grow up

Snappy comeback. Only took nearly 4 months. [quote]Grow up[/quote] Because asking those that made the decison to pay the consequences is childish in some way? You are a 1st class tool. I tell you what, piss off and take your shit, ridiculously slow comeback with you.

It wasn't a comeback. I just thought your post was immature and you prove my point by insulting me. It wasn't only old people that voted to leave the E.U so yeah... Instead of pointing fingers of recrimination at the older generation or whoever voted to leave why not ask these people why they voted the way they did instead of having a go at those individuals. Well done. The E.U has done a lot of good but it also leaves a lot to be desired. I've been of the opinion for over a year the E.U needs to reform in a lot of ways but the ones with the most power in the union show no willing signs to do so hence I voted the way I did. If you want to disagree with me fine but please do so in a civil manner or just don't bother to reply. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!

So you wanted reform, didn't get it and voted us in to a position where we cannot even push for it. Now when someone states you should suffer the consequences of your actions you tell them to grow up?

We had pushed for reform and it always fell on deaf ears in the E.U so what is the point in trying to talk to people that aren't willing to take any steps to reform. Over 17 million felt the same way about the E.U because they voted to leave... P.S I'm not telling you to grow up because of you saying that people have to accept responsibility for the consequences of their actions. I'm telling you to grow up because you are blaming all old people and their future generations for the outcome of the vote. [quote]Everyone that voted Brexit should get the sack first and their children should be registered in such a way that are denied all opportunities in life so that those that made the decision pay the consequences.[/quote] These words above are yours not mine. You sound like a child having a tantrum because you didn't get your own way.

The overwhelming majority of people who voted Brexit are old and they did vote against the wishes of the generations that have to live far longer with the decision, and that is a fact based on maths so whether or not you like it bucko it is true. You betrayed my kids, their kids and future generations because you are a daft old racist with no clue. Everything you know about the EU which is very little you got from the rag trade British media. Oh yes let me guess, you voted for the poor fisherman yet live in Derby or something daft. Oh no wait it was for reform, that old chestnut, and prey tell what reform you wanted? Prey tell what EU law made your life such an abject misery that you voted to deny future generations the ability to work and travel freely throughout 20+ countries? Bendy bananas?

Okay you are prob right that the majority of voters might have been of the older generation. For that I can admit I was in the wrong. Even if that is the case does that mean you should punish those future generations for the choice of their elders ? Following your line of reasoning about punishing future generations should we then be punishing the future generations of [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url]'s for the things their grandparents did ? If you honestly believe that I've got nothing more to say. Okay if the newspapers that I read such as The Guardian and the Independent are rag trade British media than so be it. You have guessed very wrong my good man. Nothing to do with the fisherman rubbish actually. I didn't get swayed by any of the rubbish/hate that plonker Farage spouted that got lapped up by newspapers such as the daily mail etc. Assumptions are the mother of all f**k ups. How do you get to the conclusion that because I imply the EU needs some form of reform that I am saying that any EU law has made my life a misery. I haven't said that once so please stop putting words in my mouth. To be honest with you a lot of my motivation in voting how I did was not only about reform in the EU, but reform for the UK as well. It most certainly wasn't about bendy bananas for me. For you to suggest that is honestly quite insulting to my intelligence. The final brexit deal hasn't been done so how can you say that people won't be able to travel and work freely in other countries ? People were doing that before the EU existed so it won't stop it. It might make it trickier than it is now but it won't stop it! For the record I'm not a racist because I voted the way I did. I have despised any form of hate crime all of my life and will carry to do so because it is just wrong and I've seen the ugly side of racism (born in South Africa and came to England when I was 2). I'm very saddened by any form of racism/hate crime. Let me ask you why should we have stayed in the E.U ? Specific reasons please. I'm not meaning to sound like an asshole but in my opinion throughout the build up to the referendum all that seemed to come from the remain side of the campaign was threats of an economic downturn rather than good reasons to stay in. Maybe I missed something though. PS. I'm thirty years old by the way.

Yup, perfect. [quote]Okay if the newspapers that I read such as The Guardian and the Independent are rag trade British media than so be it. [/quote] Pulls out some alleged left wing bias newspapers, both of which require advertising to survive and as such are corporations which means of course that advertising in them decides content. But you know it all. News is driven by ratings as that's what sells advertising and that is true of both the Guardian and the ironically titled Independent Goes all Godwin's law to. Quality stuff from you here. Still haven't said what reforms you wanted (because its just a pretty speech) but like every other brexiter when pushed you have nothing, you just don't want to say immigration publicly. Why should we have stayed in the EU? Workers Rights, many of the very positive workers rights in this country are here due to being in the EU and good old brexiters have given the Tory party a mandate to rip it all up for their corporate pals. Really looking forward to the possibility of being told to do a 60 hour week and not see my kids at all, cheers for that. Now we as a nation are going to leave the Human Rights Act. That's nice isn't it? Dumping Human Rights because of a few high profile cases. Good work. Says a lot about us as a society doesn't it? Erasmus was a great way of helping the less well off into post graduate education but we'll be dumping that so we can keep post grad education for the rich now so well done there to. Keeping the rich as the most educated and powerful is a brilliant way of getting the social/economic reform we need. Now what reforms did you want from the EU that we didn't get that prompted you to vote against all those things I have actually listed?

You are twisting my words, only wanting to say what supports your opinion in an attempt to make me look stupid. You are welcome to your opinion as I am mine but this discussion is pointless. You are welcome to come to whatever conclusion you want seeing as you are doing that any way. I don't have to justify anything to you. The majority of what you said is just assumptions about what the final brexit deal will look like. How about wait and see. However as I say you will now take from that only what you want. I was trying to have a civil discussion with you but you have at every attempt tried to twist my words to support your argument that you clearly believe that I and all 17 million brexit voters are close minded, racist and stupid people. Your condescension shows exactly the failure in UK and EU politicians to realise the feelings of their voters. Good job... Have a good day

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Oh f off clearly lost and can't cope with abit of change get over it i bet you're on benefits

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[quote]Hey look! A fascist.[/quote]