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Edited by iMoto Bro:
6/23/2016 5:33:52 PM
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When Titans got Sunbreaker, everyone lost their mind. People cried enough and it got nerfed. Then everyone suddenly found Sunsingers to be OP. They cried and got that nerfed too. Hunters finally got their well-deserved nerfs and they wanted to retaliate so they went after Titans again, for absolutely no reason other than to be annoying.
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Bungie doesn't nerf based on any one class "crying." Before you go finger-pointing let say I'm not into the whole "I am my favorite class of Guardian " shit. Hunter's have never "got anything nerfed" and Titans were the loudest on the forums all yr1 about nerfing anything. Shoulder Charge in and of itself is unbalanced just by the fact it exists. No other class gets a ohk ability simply for running! That being said, it's my favorite damn thing to do in PvP. That's how I really know it's going to be snipped before long! It's just too damn fun. Now, when you talk about Hunters' "well-deserved nerfs" you are displaying that you are in favor of nerfs and therefore just as "whiney" as anyone else who ever called for one. I know so many players who play all classes that are just outright flabbergasted about tripmines and throwing knives. I'll even concede with the tripmine, but if it had to be done it should have gone down differently, but throwing knives? No reason whatsoever for that horseshit.
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You know what is more powerful than a shoulder charge? No Land Beyond! It has a cooldown between shots two, but it can kill people from long distances! LETS NERF NO LAND BEYOND THEN. Pls don't. Don't cry nerf as soon as an update drops. At least wait a while for it to became prevalent instead of shouting at something that has been fine for a long time.
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Never cried for a nerf in my post and actually condemned op for theowing his towel in with them, whether he/she realized it or not. Don't like nerfs, or players that lie to themselves and the community when it comes to balance. I wish everything was restored to it's full glory.
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Cool story bro. Bungie nerfs based on enough complaints. Just a few months ago, they said Sunsingers were built around the burn effect and then soon after they nerf Firebolts because people kept complaining about them. They even said they didn't feel they were overpowered, simply annoying to fight against. That's poor logic for nerfs.
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Edited by Waynard1724: 6/23/2016 9:40:45 PMIt is very flawed logic, definitely give you that. Bungie has said time and time again though, that they make their adjustments based on data, not player complaints. I'm not saying I completely believe with that, but c'mon, no one class of player is ever going to have that kind of legitimate influence. Also, if they're not playing all classes, and only "main" this or that, then sorry, I can't respect their input.
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Edited by YFT Zero: 6/23/2016 9:29:19 PMHunters did have blink shotgunning with QuickDraw, one of the most OP things in the game... until it was nerfed
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That was a looonnnggg time ago. I'm mainly referring to the most recent batch of class tunings. It was a very deadly tactic, but still something a good player could counter. Also, Voidwalkers could use the same tactic, that without "QuickDraw" was still very deadly. QuickDraw was only an extremely minute advantage that required you to use a perk. Believe me though, I'm glad that meta got put to rest!
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Yeah, I would rather have it where all classes and subclasses could have all their abilities be decent, balanced, and fun to use so it would actually be a challenge to decide what perks to use which would open up more playstyles. Sadly I don't see that day coming anytime soon, and if it does there will still be people complaining that almost perfectly balanced things are still super OP.
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The hunter class that absolutely needed a nerf, and the one our friend was talking about was nightstalkers. The tether range was broken and it had insane autocorrect, smokes were completely destroying the crucible, and shadestep MAKES YOU INVINCIBLE for a few milliseconds. I mained nightstalker on my hunter because of how easy it was to destroy people. And with sealed ahamkara grasps, wombo combo was the most broken thing in the game. I'm equally sad and glad that they got nerfed because of their player friendliness and opness.
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There's so much wrong with your post I don't know where to begin, so I won't.
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Edited by Flubble99: 6/24/2016 11:20:15 AMI see nothing wrong with his comment, other than the invincibility on shadestep, which was basically just really hard to shoot at due to the player melting into shadows for a few seconds as they moved. Good luck shooting someone shadestepping in the face. Also, what he said was true otherwise. I have been hit by many tethers from around corners. E.g. on Frontier, I will be on the bridge and somebody shoots a tether from the other side which curves and hits me. Idk about you, but does that sound like it is balanced?
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So easy to kill a Shadestepping Hunter, and being tethered is rarely a problem since it's so easy to kill whoever tethered you, so nope.
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Easy to kill someone when you are tethered eh? 1. No Super. 2. No Grenade. 3. Lowered damage output. 4. Lowered damage resistance. 5. Slowed. 6. Screen flicked away from where you are aiming. 7 No double jump. 8. Could get killed by the arrow. Don't be bias, and don't be an idiot. That post shows you are one, the other or both. You decide.
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You have hardly enough game time, let alone PvP time logged to be so arrogant in your assertions.
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Hey insulting sack of shit (see I can do it too)! Tired of having to explain I play all classes and don't favor one or "main" anything. If you've never killed a NS who tethered you, then you probably are just a bad player. Even players who do "main" other subclasses have admitted this. Idiot.
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Epic argument there.
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If it's not obvious to you all the points that are incorrect in his comment, it's not my duty to enlighten you. If you actually play and aren't a -blam!-ing potato then you'd be savvy to it. Also, the other Guardian has very little crucible time, especially on their Hunter, which they've played nearly 5 seconds in PvP.
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If it's not obvious you are ridiculously bias in these posts, you should really realise that you are not always right. *Sound of ego deflating*
