Some people take this game too seriously. But who am I to tell someone what they should care about. So for those people I have to say, hunters deserve to complain if they want. Unlike the nerfs on other classes, every single hunter was varied and nerfed. Alot of familiarity is gone now. I made a titan less than a month ago because I was tired of getting crushed. And I found out titans can be ridiculously fast. Now do hunters have a right to complain even before the nerfs, because titans have more armor and regen while still equal or better speed. Yes they do. They really do. If you want to read my real opinion about the hunter class in general... No matter how the classes were made for the titan to basically best the hunter in all 3 categories of training is a little crazy. No matter what the stats say. Alot of people have played titans and hunters. Even when running full armor and recovery, you still can titan skate and shouldercharge forward to the point your faster than a hunter with full agility and bones plus control. I don't even play a hunter since I made my titan, so much more fun because I'm much better with him. But I feel for the people who really care about the game and main a hunter. I don't want to hear stats throughout the community. All I know is I've played enough crucible to see what classes and abilities are popular and successful against me, an average player. The night stalker, was not a problem. Really any of it. Compared to other classes. I was more scared of a skilled gunslinger with his unlimited knives. More scared of a blinking blade dancer. More scared of a shoulder charger and warlock overshielder. As for the suoer, one of the easiest to dodge and was by far the most needed change in this update. Finally. The only super that doesn't completely mirror itself from pve to pvp. Gunslinger is the best pvp class and always had been. Just alot of skilled players enjoyed nightstalker more. And we stopped playing gunslinger because nightstalker was more fun. And shadestep.... omg shadestep. The complaints about shadestep did not start occurring throughout the community until after storm callers were nerfed. I look at the forum every day a couple times on my break while I smoke a cigarette. These posts and videos did not start coming out until the warlock nerf. Posts about shadestep being totally op came out of no where. Wombo also grew in arguments. I remember when it used to be about lightning greandaes. But no they started complaining about people using 2 abilities at once to create a single good tactic for beating people. And I never even used wombo. And I never died by it. I was very confused by the amount of complainers. Again I'm a very average player and have never been to the lighthouse. But I have to say, hunters I feel for you. It is really a shame that bungie did all this. Thank God it's just a game though.