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Edited by UltraNoahXV: 6/8/2016 11:53:38 PM
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The Nightfall this Week is more Punishing than it Should be (feedback inside)

Prepare for a long post. There is a TL:DR at the bottom. For those that don't know, the nightfall this week is the Archon Priest. I don't know if it cycles between The Regular or Taken Version, but my experience was the Taken. The modifiers are Void Burn, Brawler, Grounded and Trickle. The last time this was the strike, Trickle was a modifier as well as exposure. The issue with Void Burn is that [b][i][u]everything that is a Taken Vex (which is 90% what spawns in the strike) can 1 Shot You with a void weapon. Especially the Hobgoblin's explosive arrows that auto attack you. Not to mention that the fallen vandals already can two shot you. [/u][/i][/b] Naturally, To counter this, I put on my VoidWalker Subclass. But wait, Trickle Cuts my abilities recharge rate in a percentage more than 50%. That really nullifies my Nothing Manacles Setup with Embrace the Void and Annihilate because my grenade didn't charge to a full grenade when it damaged an enemy, only 1/4th. Not to mention, you're super is Already charging slow and you're not going to go around meleeing things with Brawler modifier because you are going to die by a Void Taken Vex. Trying to jump and Launch a Super and Die? Trying to jump out the way of an attack or avoid being in the air? Thank the grounded modifier. Weapons wise, I thought Juggler was on as well because no ammo would drop for me till near the end. My loadout was a Firefly Smite of Merain to have bonus taken damage, with The Quest version of 1000 Yard Stare, and Truth. It was very painful for me without ammo. For those wanting to say "shut up and adapt", how am I going to do that if I can't dodge void attacks that one shot, both ground and air, can't launch a super in air, and run out of ammo to deal with the enemy snipers? Or, when a Taken Goblin shields another Taken with void attacks and they shoot me and can't do a thing about it? I also shouldn't have to switch weapons if I am comfortable using the weapons I want to use. This is why [i][b][u]We need Elemental Primaries to return. Its probably the best thing to happen and this nightfall is a reason why.[/u][/b][/i] I get that the nightfall is supposed to be challenging, but it shouldn't cripple you to the point where you so underpowered, you're basic maneuvers or modifers don't help you all, to the point it mainly giving a huge advantage to your enemies. To add to that: A Response that I made earlier: [quote]I had FUN doing nightfalls in year 1 because we had guns that did something, gave out good rewards, and tried out new things. And it was also fun having advantages and disadvantages in nightfalls. Now, its just being disadvantaged, there aren't any unique guns I could choose from and isn't fun. Sure, most nightfalls are quicker, but the rewards arent satisfying especially when you reach 335. Especially this one. I was also a better PVE player in year 1 before I started doing worse since I shifted PVP.[/quote] Lastly, fix your strike reward drops and rolls. I got a Stolen Will with Exhumed. It got dismantled immediately. Thanks for 18 Strange Coins though. I did need that. [b][i][u]TL:DR[/u][/i][/b] -Nightfall was Taken Archon Priest -Cripples Guardians with Void Burn, Grounded, and Trickle -95% Of all Enemies 1-Shoted You or Killed You fast with a Void Weapon via being on ground or in the air. -Can't really adapt with no ammo and Brawler was wasted because you would most likely get 1-Shoted in that Time Frame. -Fix Strike Drops and Rolls. Future note: Edit for spelling mistakes. Edit: Thanks for commenting. Let's keep this going and get this word out to others. Maybe Cozmo will see this. On the bright side, this week is MAYHEM CLASH. YES!

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  • OP is Y2 obviously. Nightfalls are supposed to be a challenge dude. Grow a pair and solo it ;)

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    • Don't be a little bitch about it.

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      • Are you seriously complaining about having to put actual effort into beating something? BTW I soloed it up to Boss until I had friends randomly join.

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        • Annoying but at the same time it was an easy strike. Getting super up was alway easy to achieve if you have weapons like super cell or bad juju. With your void walker it shouldn't be hard to get your melee up if you use monte carlo. It recharges your melee energy and randomly has a chance to fully restore your melee charge. With that use your melee and it restores your grenades. Wear armor that recharges your grenades or melee charge when picking up orbs. Overall it isnt hard if your teammates use the right gear.

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        • Why is trickle even a modifier?

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          • The reason why some of these nightfalls seem annoying and challenging is because of the lack of rewards. Its the worst feeling knowing you put actual energy into completing something just to get smacked in the face at the end reward everytime. Nightfalls were fun before because the rewards felt rewarding. Now we do the nightfall knowing its gonna be strange coins, low light ghost shell or a crappy low light legendary.

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          • Also for some reason my shields were not recharging yet Exposure is not a modifier😭

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          • Not sure what you mean by [quote]But wait, Trickle Cuts my abilities recharge rate in a percentage more than 50%. That really nullifies my Nothing Manacles Setup with Embrace the Void and Annihilate because my grenade didn't charge to a full grenade when it damaged an enemy, only 1/4th[/quote] Are you running with a high Discipline? It should recharge faster than that.

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            • Easier than year one. I remember archon priest with arc burn. My noob days when I only had an ice breaker. That used to take forever. This one was painful, but this over year one nightfall any day.

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            • must say i really enjoyed the nightfall this week. took a bit longer, but it wasn't the 8 minute solo completion the last few nightfalls have been also there have been much harder ones in the past

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            • Challenging? Yes. I've had so much worse, many times. I could easily solo this week's to the boss and with 3 or even just 2 properly geared guardians, with a little patience and skill, complete it. Didn't take any longer than most heroic strikes. I'm going to do it once more with my Hunter but doubt it'll be a problem. Since 335 is already achieved, I do it for the fun of it. If it isn't fun, you shouldn't do it anyway.

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            • Guess your not a Y1 player then?

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              • The only thing we can get mad for is the reward. In any other way, nightfall is made to be HARD, STRATEGIC and TIRESOME. His purpose is to make us cry and break some controllers. Sometimes, we got good modifiers and sometimes (like this week) we got hells modifiers. When you finish a nightfall, the first thing you have to think about is "I DID IT". Stop being so fragile and look at this only like something challenging and challenge yourselves. But if you want to transform this topic into a complaint about nightfall's rewards, you have my upvote. Spend one hour to get a shitty 330 shield is more heartbreaker than the nightfall itself

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                • Which is why I'm not doing it. I don't need anymore 330 ghosts thank you very much.

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                • My friend and I beat it with just the two of us you will live homie.

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                • You know why they call it nightfall? Because if you start it in the morning, it'll take you to nightfall to finish it.

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                • Nightfall is more rewarding than ever. For instance, I got 3 armor pieces on 3 runs. All 330 light! Awesome, huh?! My characters are all 335....

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                  • It wouldn't be a problem if the reward was worth the effort.......

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                  • Man up

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                  • In all honesty, it isn't that hard of a Nightfal. The only part that is half way challenging is the boss fight itself with the Hobgoblins and then Cabal towards the end of the fight. It's doable, but requires patience and being tactful.

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                  • Edited by dirty_pirate_80: 6/8/2016 4:30:02 AM
                    I remember my first nightfall...soloed everyone after. Well all most ( a certain witch on arc burn)

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                    • Don't play this week's nightfall. The rewards too often are worthless anyways.

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                    • It is not fun and it has shit rewards.

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                    • It makes a huge difference if you're wearing void burn armor. Went in with three of us all having that armor and we beat it in 29 minutes. Went in later with three people without void burn defense, and the one shot axion darts were destroying us. It took us 46 minutes. Multiple times two of us died from the same axion dart, and a guy died from an axion dart detonating like ten feet away.

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                    • I did it yesterday and it was the worst thing I'd ever done, and got 12 3oC for it...which I don't need as I still have a ton of strange coins and every exotic. The taken centurions were shooting their heat seeking one hit orbs over the top of the ridge even. What a shitty night fall.

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                    • We want a challenge you damn scrub shit up and get gud or leave to play lego land bc this is not for 10 yr olds bud. Stop crying

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