Yeah man [quote]your childs future was the first to go with budget cuts If you think that hurts then, wait here comes the uppercut The school was garbage in the first place, that's on the up and up Keep you at the bottom but tease you with the uppercrust You get it then they move it so you never keeping up enough If you turn on TV all you see’s a bunch of “what the -blam!-s” Dude is dating so and so blabbering bout such and such And that ain't Jersey Shore, homie that's the news And these the same people that supposed to be telling us the truth[/quote] You pretty much just [quote]And who do you choose, the heart said the youth, the mind said the truth The blind led the blind here to heaven with a sign saying 'I choose you' But left you behind, like no one can explain it It's like one religion can't contain it And I ain't the man that's tryna change it, I just want answers Live no cameras, -blam!- the propaganda Many souls stranded cause they took a book for granted Some planted seeds to feed the mind peace over greed I just keep the truth that I read World on their knees while their innocence bleeds And you keep funding wars with money from your source The shame is all ours, but God, I'm all yours, save me Before the doors close and them horns blown And I'm alone in my grave thinking maybe I shoulda prayed more for peace, love, and unity Between you and me, no matter who you choose to be Pop telling me that, the Muslims won't make it And the Muslims telling me my pop won't make it Yet they both praise Him, night and day raise His Name Until the day he came back to claim them Is one gon' save them? And another take them? Doubt it They telling me I shouldn't live without it Belief, relief for the doubters, it keeps me clouded Confused while I'm doing the knowledge, but my God said choose I choose you, who do you choose? I hope it ain't me, cause I'm just an MC...[/quote] Summed up rap [quote]Nuclear stockpile's America's second largest The world's most destructive and the world's most heartless Under the auspices that war will be rendered harmless And everlasting peace will be in reach if we just bomb shit Technologically fanatic racial socio- Economic faux-intellectual -blam!-ing nonsense Dripping with political interludes, typical of a system Stark raving mad and operating unconscious Now how do we proceed? Knowing through the man's fatalism And probably you'll never leave A disease trying to cure its own symptoms with disease Creating an epidemic just to see if it can be[/quote]

Lol, "deep, man" "The imitation fart noises add to the lyrical genius" *lights joint* Comical to me that you quote this basic stuff (looks like a seventh grade poem) to try to prove it can be good.

[quote]If counting rap as music, then rap. I am not sure it qualifies, as it is basically illiterate basic rhyming about women, drugs and guns set to random sounds including imitation fart noises. It is the Special Olympics of music - music for people not capable of actual music, but you have to pretend they are "so talented."[/quote] Do some actual research on rap. The stuff you hear on the radio isn't good rap. And saying it lacks talent or skill (which you've implied) then why don't you become a rapper? If it is so easy then you'd be a millionaire before you know it.

Lol, "actual research on rap." How about this - listen to some actual music. Or if you are under the delusion that rap is "poetry" (lol), read some actual poetry. You know - stuff where "ho," anything that rhymes with "itch", "gat," "Glock," "nine," "bling", any synonym for cash, any expensive car name, any nickname for drugs do not make up most of the "lyrics" and imitation fart noises do not make up 25% of the "music.'

[quote]Lol, "actual research on rap." -you laughing doesn't invalidate my point. You being ignorant is your own fault. How about this - listen to some actual music. -I do? Or if you are under the delusion that rap is "poetry" (lol), read some actual poetry. - I do read poetry. Some artists are compared to actual famous poets. But you probably wouldn't know that because you only listen to mainstream. You know - stuff where "ho," anything that rhymes with "itch", "gat," "Glock," "nine," "bling", any synonym for cash, any expensive car name, any nickname for drugs do not make up most of the "lyrics" and imitation fart noises do not make up 25% of the "music. -almost no artists use most of those terms. Again, actually know about a genre before you stereotype. And what is up with you and fart noises? '[/quote]

[url=https://youtu.be/kTqlWhwTILw]Great poets at work - "they are so talented!" "They are like Mozart and Shakespeare rolled into one!" "Not all rap is like that, why, the Norwegian rapper Norrapo sold 250 records last year and his raps are all about butterflies! See, rap is real art, if you pretend all the rap people listen to doesn't exist and pretend Norrapo is the world's #1 rapper!" (Linked content contains profanity)[/url]

[quote][url=https://youtu.be/kTqlWhwTILw]Great poets at work - "they are so talented!" "They are like Mozart and Shakespeare rolled into one!" "Not all rap is like that, why, the Norwegian rapper Norrapo sold 250 records last year and his raps are all about butterflies! See, rap is real art, if you pretend all the rap people listen to doesn't exist and pretend Norrapo is the world's #1 rapper!" (Linked content contains profanity)[/url][/quote] Way to dodge everything entirely.

If by "dodging," you mean providing direct evidence exposing your argument as ridiculous (probably disingenuous). Or did I create that "song" .... and about, oh, 95% of all rap "songs" ever ... just to embarrass you? I would offer to provide you another hundred examples, or a thousand, or however many you care to name ... but I don't want to spend that long swimming through the sewer that is rap "music." But before anybody thinks my disdain for this "song" is due to some weird bias ... let me just say, "they are so talented!" 'They can do anything!"

[quote]If by "dodging," you mean providing direct evidence exposing your argument as ridiculous (probably disingenuous). -you linked a song to 3 six Mafia. A known group of people that make party songs. if you had even known about them then you'd know that even they make some meaningful songs. But generally speaking they don't. Or did I create that "song" .... and about, oh, 95% of all rap "songs" ever ... just to embarrass you? -95% of radio rap* -you embarrassed me? How? -do you know the difference between rap and trap? I would offer to provide you another hundred examples, or a thousand, or however many you care to name ... but I don't want to spend that long swimming through the sewer that is rap "music." - I can also show you plenty of stupid songs from the 80s when hair metal was thing. But that doesn't mean all hair metal is the same. Get what I mean? But before anybody thinks my disdain for this "song" is due to some weird bias ... let me just say, "they are so talented!" 'They can do anything!" - would it help if I linked some songs that have meaning? [/quote]

This is the hill you want to die on? Flailing helplessly attempting to defend fart noises and "ho" "Glock" "gat" "bling" rhymes as "genius"? And/or attempting to say that every hit rap song ever "isn't really rap, me and eight other people all acknowledge Norrapo as true rap"?

[quote]This is the hill you want to die on? Flailing helplessly attempting to defend fart noises and "ho" "Glock" "gat" "bling" rhymes as "genius"? And/or attempting to say that every hit rap song ever "isn't really rap, me and eight other people all acknowledge Norrapo as true rap"?[/quote] The hill I want to die on? What? I come on here in between doom matches and when I have nothing to do. And you've shown your ignorance with the words you've used. The word "glock" may have been popular in the 90s but not anymore. The word "ho" stopped being popular in the mid 2000s when crunk music stopped being a thing. And the word "bling" was only popular amongst parody rap groups or comedy rap. And when we say it isn't "real rap" we mean it isn't the same as what the genre first began with. That, and most of what you here on the radio is trap. Trap=/= rap. But you probably don't know the difference. [spoiler]what is up with you and fart noises? Is a fetish? Repressed memory? What? I'm genuinely concerned. And I can link songs that break the arguments you've had. If you'd like. [/spoiler]

What happened in your life to make you so excited by fart noises and the word "ho"? For example, do you hate your mother so you get a childish thrill to hear women called "ho"? Your mother who you hate discouraged loud farts so music containing fart noises gives you a childish "that'll show her!!" thrill? You are either literate or you have someone type your posts, so why do you see illiterates making fart noises as your idols? Nobody with really any decency or intelligence can defend the garbage that is rap.

[quote]What happened in your life to make you so excited by fart noises and the word "ho"? Why do you idolize illiterates?[/quote] Way to dodge the questions. And what do you mean by fart noises by the way? Can you give me an example in rap because I really have no clue what you are talking about. unless you mean like really really really deep bass. Which isn't a thing in rap or music in general.

Are you lying, or are you ignorant? And what triggered your hatred of women? Were you abused?

[quote]Are you lying, or are you ignorant? -everybody is ignorant about some things. But as a whole I am not ignorant. And what triggered your hatred of women? -I don't have a hatred for women? Lol Were you abused? -nope. Grew up middle class and happy. [/quote]

Then why do you think it is "genius" to say "ho" every fifth word? Why do you want police murdered? Basically, why do you idolize the worst possible characteristics of humanity, spewed out by illiterates in basic chanting "music" with no instruments or any other skill or ability involved?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sehc8XuTlU Yup no positive messages.

You ain't got no HOPE Cause my rhymes are DOPE I ain't gotta SING To wear my BLING Get off my BLOCK Fore I grab my GLOCK (Fart noises) I am a genius!!

Listen to Kendrick Lamar he is one of the few good rappers

If he is good (and he may well be), one day he may make real music instead of rap.