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4/9/2016 12:32:42 PM
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Except for one thing. Bungie says firebolts are fine (which i agree with) but apparently everything else fun to use is OP.
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Bungie also said snipers were fine before the 2.1 update and now they're saying that adjustments are needed so that they're used in their intended ranges (which is exactly what most reasonable people were saying all along). What other grenade has area of effect tracking, can take a full health Guardian down to a one shot kill and blocks health regeneration for 10+ seconds? None. Now, while I'm glad they didn't do to Sunsingers what they did to Sunbreakers, that doesn't mean the problem doesn't still exist. Rather than continuing to nerf everything though, I am suggesting they start thinking outside the box. Armor perks would add more strategy to matches and would also help other classes become more viable options as well.
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Edited by Wraith: 4/9/2016 3:09:26 PMWell yeah, it's a fantastic grenade. But aside from that and scorch (which is getting nerfed) what do sunsingers have? They have a shit super, they have an awful jump, they can't blink or evade in any meaningful way... It's literally the only thing they have lol. And snipers ARE fine. Snipers haven't changed. They've always been this good. The problem is the fact that they've nerfed fusions and shotguns to the brink of extinction. Of course snipers are going to dominate at all ranges, because the specials that are supposed to dominate at close and mid are almost useless. Edit: Also, in no way am I endorsing Bungie's competence here... They literally just nerfed hawkmoon's range in the last update and are now buffing it back this update. They have no -blam!-ing clue what they're doing anymore lol
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Edited by Malicious203FLK: 4/9/2016 3:48:54 PMI'll never understand how everyone forgets that Sunsingers also have fusion grenades... That they can carry 2 of without the need for an exotic piece of armor... They're not losing Flame Shield, still have the best melee range and it's not hard to skate around using focused burst either. It wouldn't kill the subclass if everyone had a counter to the burn perks. CoD can keep the quick scoping shenanigans as far as I'm concerned. That's the only problem I have with snipers. Edit: The Hawkmoon nerf and buff is just another example of how little Bungie actually tests these changes before they implement them. While I wish something had been done about firebolts, I can only imagine how badly they would've -blam!-ed it up if they did what they've done in the past.
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[quote]I'll never understand how everyone forgets that Sunsingers also have fusion grenades... That they can carry 2 of without the need for an exotic piece of armor... They're not losing Flame Shield, still have the best melee range and it's not hard to skate around using focused burst either. It wouldn't kill the subclass if everyone had a counter to the burn perks. CoD can keep the quick scoping shenanigans as far as I'm concerned. That's the only problem I have with snipers. Edit: The Hawkmoon nerf and buff is just another example of how little Bungie actually tests these changes before they implement them. While I wish something had been done about firebolts, I can only imagine how badly they would've -blam!-ed it up if they did what they've done in the past.[/quote] Yeah i quite like fusions as well, but i think for 3v3 game modes, where sunsingers really shine, the firebolt performs better. Outside of that, fusions for sure. And true, they're not losing it, but it's gonna charge slower and be weaker. I'm pretty baffled that they actually left firebolt alone and nerfed flame shield... Like really? :p. And focused burst is ok, but it's nowhere near on the level of hunter jumps, blink, titan skate, twilight garrison, shadestep... And quick scoping never used to be a thing though! I mean how often did you get quick scoped when felwinter's was around? Or when fusion rifles could actually hit things outside of point blank range? They crushed sniper users at their ranges back then. Now snipers don't have to worry about it. They have time to body shot, switch to primary, finish them off and move on. Couldn't do that before :p
