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4/6/2016 2:30:46 PM
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When it comes to Black holes, where do you stand on the potential wormhole deal and white holes? Neither of these things have been seen at all, however math has proven that these things should exist. Any suggestions on where to look? Also, what would you say to the idea of a Quark Star, an object so heavy that neutrons break into their respective particles and create what we call black holes?
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  • Edited by The Cellar Door: 4/6/2016 2:43:34 PM
    Black holes and worm holes are two separate ordeals. Don't think of a black hole as something you can jump in and it might be a worm hole, you'd be very sorely mistake when you're ripped to death by tidal forces. Worm holes and white holes are mathematically objects. They would break the laws of physics, hence why we haven't detected them before, because they arguably don't exist. Like, a white whole exists in the same manner that entropy can decrease. You can contort math to say it can go both ways, but physically it can't. I will be fairly surprised if we ever find evidence of either these. It's important not to blend theoretical physics with actual physics. And a quark star is also theoretical, however it would not result in a black hole. neutron star>quark star>black hole As in neutron>quark>spacetime A quark is an elementary particle that makes up a hadron, like a neutron or a proton. A neutron star is formed when the core of a star is so big, the electron degeneracy pressure is exceeded, and everything falls onto the neutrons which hold it up. A black hole is when the neutron degeneracy pressure is exceeded. They're just theorizing that there may be a step in the middle of neutron star and black hole, where the quarks could hold the pressure.

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  • Due to mathematics, blackhole cannot exist without white holes. We know for certain that blackhole exist. Therefore, our math also states that a white hole must exist. It breaks thermodynamics, I know, however it is mathematically sound. Like how .999.....= 1. It is rather simple to prove that one. I'll let you research it if you're curious. Also, what are your opinions on the name Milk-Dromeda? Any other name you'd suggest for the galaxy after the collision with Andromeda? Say, Andro-Way?

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  • Back up for a moment. The mathematics say a white hole [i]can[/i] exist, not that it does. Don't confuse mathematical hypotheticals with evidence.

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  • However, the same math is used on black holes. If it is applied and we have a real world result, if we apply the math that is only altered ever so slightly, if should still hold true. a=vt; therefore v=a/t

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  • Its more analogous to Newton's law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, except a white hole requires negative time. As we know, this doesn't happen.

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  • Apply space-time in for time and it would theoretically work. Negative space time would be a place it wouldn't expand

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  • Edited by The Cellar Door: 4/6/2016 7:18:27 PM
    So don't try to say they have to exist, because they don't. As you just proved.

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  • Ai'ght, mate. I'm not a believer in them, however I enjoy a debate. What about the Milk-Dromeda deal?

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  • I feel like just squashing them together is boring. I'd rather it be named after Carl Sagan or something.

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  • If a person, why not a name like Faraday, Newton, Einstein, Bohr, Galileo, or Confucius?

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  • Not sure why Confucius made that list lol, but those scientists have distinct scientific things named after them. Farads, Newton's, the plethora of things for Einstein including his own unit, the Galileo mission, etc. I feel like the merger of galaxies is something that captures the interest of the public eye, so I feel like someone who captured this interest and motivated us further in space than ever before is deserving.

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  • I like Confucius. He isn't as understood as I think he should be. Some may call him... Confusing.

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