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Edited by Reaga: 4/3/2016 1:22:01 AM
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My face when someone says sniping takes skill

All year one people bitched and whined about shotguns and how they took "No skill", but now that snipers are ruling Crucible no one wants Bungie to take that crutch away? How -blam!-ing hypocritical do you have to be, honestly, to think on weapon type requires more skill than another? "B-but anyone can use a shotgun all you have to do is point and shoot" Oh you mean that I don't have to get in close and stand at near the damn edge of the map and get kills with shotgun. Holy -blam!-ing shit I must have been using them wrong. Oh as for the logic of anyone can use them, why the -blam!- can everyone use a sniper? Why does everyone act like it's so -blam!-ing hard to use these things? "W-well obviously people were complaining about things like found verdict, Felwinter's lie, and Matador" Oh you mean like everyone is and has been complaining 1000-yard stare? Defiance of Yasmine? Just gonna ignore that are we? Because those are the snipers everyone is using right now and have had the most complaints. "B-but shotgun were obviously broken messes, they needed to be reworked" And sniping doesn't? When the reticle doesn't work like the rest of the -blam!-ing weapons and allows you to get a head shot? Seriously, go use any other weapon in the game and let me know which one still hit where the reticle was pointing instead of its current position. They may not be OP but they sure as hell need a looking at. "But it must take skill because you don't see people going unbroken/getting really high kill streaks that often with snipers" You didn't see many -blam!-ing people that went unbroken with a -blam!-ing shot gun or fusion rifle either. Most of the times when they did they used their primaries and other abilities to help them reach those milestones. Same goes for snipers. "You're just bad and you need to adapt to the Meta" Oh you mean like how everyone didn't adapt to shotgun/fusion rifles or any other meta? This is what I -blam!-ing hate about the community, you people are so goddamn scared of losing the weapons that you rely to heavily on to think -blam!-ing clearly and act like giant -blam!-ing hypocrites when anyone encroaches on your weapon's territory. You all don't want balance in this game, you want your weapons to be the best and everyone else's weapons to be a big old steaming pile. You hoot and hollar about adapting, and certain weapon being unskilled, but yet half of you couldn't use a shotgun or fusion rifle to save your life and you never even tried to get better with them. Oh well, have fun "Adapting" to the new sniper changes coming on the 12th, I will enjoy watching you baddies struggle to get kills. Edit: To all the people pointing out my stats, good job, you found out at least enough to know that I haven't played [b]ON PLAYSTATION CONSOLES[/b] in a long time. To the people that are thinking that I am salty about getting killed with sniper rounds. Nah, that isn't what pisses me off. What pisses me off is you kids want shit on other weapons, but when someone starts dumping on snipers it "OH NO DON'T NERF MY SNIPERS, THEY ARE THE PERFECTS AND MOST BALANCE RIGHT NOW". Complain all for the first year about fusion rifles and shotguns ,that people legitimately loved using, some not even because they were the meta weapons, but when someone does the same to snipers suddenly they are noobs that can't "adapt?". Yet your unskilled asses couldn't quit bitching and adapt to those weapons? What pisses me off is you are being -blam!-ing hypocrites about the weapons. What's hilarious is the people in the comments proving my point about this as well, just look at how many people didn't read and just went for the insults. All they saw was someone saying something about snipers and went ape shit over it. Edit 2: Maybe I should start a fund for the illiterate and those that are failing with reading comprehension because either people can't read or choose to ignore the point. The point I was trying to make was that people using snipers say it takes skill to use, but yet every match people are using them often and well enough to dictate that the skill bar for these weapons is set quite low. To be great with them, yes it does take skill, but so does using a shotgun or a fusion rifle, but yet for all of year one and parts of year 2 people still continued to whine about them without thinking "hmm why are these weapons considered OP?". Look at most the maps on this -blam!-ing game, they are built for short to mid encounters. Couple that with the fact that Bungie thinks [b]SPECIAL[/b] ammo needs to be given out like candy and of course these weapons are going to be overused, they were the best for those situations. As for the children saying "Oh he's a shotgunner" "Lol he mad that he can't use a sniper and get killed with them", congrats you are the people I keep referring to, that constantly defend a broken system and again demonstrate my point that when it comes to your weapons they are fine and balanced, but everything is broken, cheap mess that needs to be nerfed. For those that think I can't use a sniper, congrats on being judgemental morons. Been using the TAO HUA YUAN (with ambush scope I might add) and Omolon Uzume quite easily and they have much lower AA than 1000-yard and Defiance.

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  • snipers haven't changed since vanilla. people always find one thing new to complain about its insane. we get it man, you can't snipe and you're sick of getting sniped. get gud

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    • Too bad your only linked character is a level 22 Hunter that's never been in Crucible.

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    • I enjoyed year 1 pvp so much more. I liked the fast paced, up close play style. Camping with snipers and mida is just boring.

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      • Sniping is a lot easier to do than using a shotgun, nowadays.

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        • I am not good at sniping, nor am I bad at sniping. Nope, I am horrible ! What do you guys think a good way to practice is ? I have had some friends (that ARE great at sniping) tell me to not practice in crucible. Thoughts? Thanks

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          • OP is very obviously 12 and is still upset he can't snipe with his precious shotguns anymore.

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            • What would you do in the raid with a nerfed sniper #break

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            • Another complaining post.

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            • What

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            • Thanks to CoD and Halo sniping instantly means skill. I however played these games and I'm gonna tell you guys that camping in the back of the trials map with a sniper does not take skill nor did sitting in the back of the map on big team battle with the sniper and rocket launcher

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              • Hmm, your face is that of three dudes with jaw lines having such sharp edges that they could cut steel? I recommend reconstructive surgery.

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              • I completely agree!!! As soon as I see that the group I'm playing in the Trials are a sniping group I'm like "-blam!-, this isn't gonna be any fun". Especially in anything where level advantages are enabled it's all u see. It seriously takes all the fun out of it when u take 3 steps and get popped bc u are a few levels lower than your opponent and any shot they hit u with means death. Still I refuse to stoop to the level of sitting safely on the edge and shooting people instead of actually engaging in a fight. I understand it's part of the game but something about it makes me wanna bang my head up against the wall when I keep getting beat by these bastards no matter what other weapon I use. I thought maybe it was just me but I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one that feels this way. It doesn't take any more skill than the rest of the weapons we are still just pointing and shooting. The difference is that it's boring and lame and doesn't seem fair for a team that decides they don't wanna go that route.

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                • Sorry but both take skill in different ways... If you have the skill and agility to move close enough to someone then you're a shotgunner. Plain and simple... For sniping I guess you can hard scope it against good players they know to not run around the corner without jumping/sprinting/sliding... I'm a sniper myself. Maybe have 50 shotty kills in pvp but I have over 9k snipes with almost an 80% headshot rating.... It takes skill to run 'n gun with the sniper. I don't hard scope, I quick scope. Not just headshot quick scope but I find it easier to body shot quick then switch to primary. Not every time obviously but still, you can't say sniping doesn't take any skill because there are 2 sides to every opinion. One thing both weapons require though... Timing... That's something you learn from play styles and experience. In my personal opinion, when you release a game, you shouldn't tweek specific mechanics of the game. Updates for new content is different, but when you change speed, handling, aim assist, weapon damage, and overall accuracy then you're just conforming to what the "masses" of people prefer. People just need to suck it up and practice, no one wants to put any time into just practicing with friends. Strafing, quickscoping, jumping(which I was surprised to find how many people don't know how to -blam!-ing jump in a game, like just from platform to platform...???), basic pvp skills. In the end, both require different facets of skill. Just gotta find what works and make the best of it... And hey... If you just aren't that skilled in pvp, just accept it. I'm terrible at pve (except dps, I do massive dps) but I have over 1.6 kd on all characters in crucible. All about how you play, have fun guardians and keep on keepin on!! PS, if anyone wants to add my PSN: ItsDayYacht. And needs help doing bounties or whatever, I don't care bout flawless, I'll help ya out. Peace out

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                • Well somebody got a loss on a passage when they were 8-0

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                • All I've seen this iron banner is just shotguns, barely any snipers.

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                  • Hey pal..*slurps kelp soda*... Did you just blow in from stupid town?

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                    • Here we observe a wild OP, splitting into two personalities. One, pro-snipers, one opposed to them. Look! Look now, as the pro-sniper personality spews out easy-to-counter excuses! Fascinating, simply fascinating. It's almost as if he wants attention! *gasps* Run! I can see his salt glands filling up! Run! [spoiler]Don't touch my NLB. Nerf the other snipers to a reasonable place.[/spoiler]

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                    • Wheres your montage at yo?

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                    • I mean, I still think they take some skill. I can't use one to save my life

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                    • If a sniper can excel with a Gozen-C, then they are skilled.

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                      • Edited by MechaBeowulf DW: 4/3/2016 2:57:30 AM
                        Oh look, somebody that actually makes sense. A rarity on these forums.

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                      • This is satire right? Someone is legit this dumb?

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                        • OP. Are you seriously trying to get through the heads of the Destiny community? You're a brave, reckless soul.

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                        • Snipers definitely need an adjustment. I say knock those hardscoping fools out of scope on a headshot and delay scope in to remove close combat quickscoping. Problem solved...those of us actually good at sniping (not using a sniper as a primary) will be fine. Scrubs will move to the new meta.

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                          • Not all snipers are the problem. 1000 Yard Stare is the problem. It's the go to sniper! Aim assist is just a magnet to heads. I use the sniper and I can say that it truly isn't me sniping. It's more of the gun then anything. Takes little to no skill for me to get head shots with it.

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                            • Show me one person complaining about defiance of yasmin and you can have every 1000 yard I have. I've always sniped since the day I started, only because I'm not a fan of shotguns and enjoy sniping. Simple as that. I 100% the last 1 maybe 2 shotgun nerds were unwarranted. The only reason you're saying sniping is so easy is because 1000 yard is all you're seeing.

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