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Edited by Reaga: 4/3/2016 1:22:01 AM
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My face when someone says sniping takes skill

All year one people bitched and whined about shotguns and how they took "No skill", but now that snipers are ruling Crucible no one wants Bungie to take that crutch away? How -blam!-ing hypocritical do you have to be, honestly, to think on weapon type requires more skill than another? "B-but anyone can use a shotgun all you have to do is point and shoot" Oh you mean that I don't have to get in close and stand at near the damn edge of the map and get kills with shotgun. Holy -blam!-ing shit I must have been using them wrong. Oh as for the logic of anyone can use them, why the -blam!- can everyone use a sniper? Why does everyone act like it's so -blam!-ing hard to use these things? "W-well obviously people were complaining about things like found verdict, Felwinter's lie, and Matador" Oh you mean like everyone is and has been complaining 1000-yard stare? Defiance of Yasmine? Just gonna ignore that are we? Because those are the snipers everyone is using right now and have had the most complaints. "B-but shotgun were obviously broken messes, they needed to be reworked" And sniping doesn't? When the reticle doesn't work like the rest of the -blam!-ing weapons and allows you to get a head shot? Seriously, go use any other weapon in the game and let me know which one still hit where the reticle was pointing instead of its current position. They may not be OP but they sure as hell need a looking at. "But it must take skill because you don't see people going unbroken/getting really high kill streaks that often with snipers" You didn't see many -blam!-ing people that went unbroken with a -blam!-ing shot gun or fusion rifle either. Most of the times when they did they used their primaries and other abilities to help them reach those milestones. Same goes for snipers. "You're just bad and you need to adapt to the Meta" Oh you mean like how everyone didn't adapt to shotgun/fusion rifles or any other meta? This is what I -blam!-ing hate about the community, you people are so goddamn scared of losing the weapons that you rely to heavily on to think -blam!-ing clearly and act like giant -blam!-ing hypocrites when anyone encroaches on your weapon's territory. You all don't want balance in this game, you want your weapons to be the best and everyone else's weapons to be a big old steaming pile. You hoot and hollar about adapting, and certain weapon being unskilled, but yet half of you couldn't use a shotgun or fusion rifle to save your life and you never even tried to get better with them. Oh well, have fun "Adapting" to the new sniper changes coming on the 12th, I will enjoy watching you baddies struggle to get kills. Edit: To all the people pointing out my stats, good job, you found out at least enough to know that I haven't played [b]ON PLAYSTATION CONSOLES[/b] in a long time. To the people that are thinking that I am salty about getting killed with sniper rounds. Nah, that isn't what pisses me off. What pisses me off is you kids want shit on other weapons, but when someone starts dumping on snipers it "OH NO DON'T NERF MY SNIPERS, THEY ARE THE PERFECTS AND MOST BALANCE RIGHT NOW". Complain all for the first year about fusion rifles and shotguns ,that people legitimately loved using, some not even because they were the meta weapons, but when someone does the same to snipers suddenly they are noobs that can't "adapt?". Yet your unskilled asses couldn't quit bitching and adapt to those weapons? What pisses me off is you are being -blam!-ing hypocrites about the weapons. What's hilarious is the people in the comments proving my point about this as well, just look at how many people didn't read and just went for the insults. All they saw was someone saying something about snipers and went ape shit over it. Edit 2: Maybe I should start a fund for the illiterate and those that are failing with reading comprehension because either people can't read or choose to ignore the point. The point I was trying to make was that people using snipers say it takes skill to use, but yet every match people are using them often and well enough to dictate that the skill bar for these weapons is set quite low. To be great with them, yes it does take skill, but so does using a shotgun or a fusion rifle, but yet for all of year one and parts of year 2 people still continued to whine about them without thinking "hmm why are these weapons considered OP?". Look at most the maps on this -blam!-ing game, they are built for short to mid encounters. Couple that with the fact that Bungie thinks [b]SPECIAL[/b] ammo needs to be given out like candy and of course these weapons are going to be overused, they were the best for those situations. As for the children saying "Oh he's a shotgunner" "Lol he mad that he can't use a sniper and get killed with them", congrats you are the people I keep referring to, that constantly defend a broken system and again demonstrate my point that when it comes to your weapons they are fine and balanced, but everything is broken, cheap mess that needs to be nerfed. For those that think I can't use a sniper, congrats on being judgemental morons. Been using the TAO HUA YUAN (with ambush scope I might add) and Omolon Uzume quite easily and they have much lower AA than 1000-yard and Defiance.

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  • Huh. We seem to have something in common I made that face when I read your post

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  • Year 2 scrub confirmed.

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  • Another rant about nothing. Balance, meta, OP weapons, no skill, blah blah blah. If anything is stale, it's this constant crying. You want to know what the real deal is here? Luke Smith wants this meta shit. The highlight of this interview is "And we want to make sure that every weapon archetype sort of has its age." Read it. Deal with it. Get over it. "We've updated Destiny since the game shipped 30+ times to players. We've pushed more patches than we've ever pushed to players before. We're always looking at the weapons. We're looking at usage. We're seeing what people are using too much. What they're not using enough. And we want to continue to change the scales on how things are. Things are coming in and out of fashion. Autorifles were really in fashion when the game shipped and now they're not being used very widely. We want to continue to tilt the scales. The rise of the exotic hand cannon, we're aware of it too. And we want to make sure that every weapon archetype sort of has its age." Addressing the Hawkmoon and the Thorn more specifically Smith had this to say: "Our weapons would flow. This design flow like the last word is fun to use. It's a fan fire weapon with beautiful animations. It might just kill you a little bit too fast right now. And so when we look at messing with the weapons or when we look at tuning we don't want to tune out the flow. We want to retain the flow, the thing that makes the gun fun. We just make sure it's not overpowering, it's not dominating your decision making."

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  • Edited by grapejuice: 4/3/2016 10:43:43 PM
    You're what's wrong cause all you do is sit on here and bitch. Anytime someone gets killed by a weapon they want it nerfed. Just play the damn game and rush the scrub using the sniper hahahahaha scrub

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  • Threads like this one are why I wish someone would just fuсking euthanize me already.

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  • No sniper can compare to the God of Y1, Felwinter's Lie.

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    • You know the comments got op mad when he drops a 4 paragraph *edit* lol...damn man, thats a fking essay!

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    • #salty

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    • I think sidearms and fusions could use a small buff and snipers could do with a small nerf or maybe rework. Honestly I kind of think special weapons should all be worked on, it's to easy to use nothing but a special weapon in crucible which is either a shotgun palooza or snipe fest depending on maps and every once in a while there's a wild telesto that appears. I won't say I've never done it myself I used to go around with nothing but my dregs promise until TK and hell even did it with my chaperone after getting it for a good chunk of time.

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    • I mean, it kinda does. I could easily use a fusion in the fusion meta, and immediately got used to Shotguns. Still can't use a sniper to save my life

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    • They need a nerf I have been shot by every sniper in the game I have been shot out of the air,I have been shot when slideing,I have been shot while shadow stepping an useing twilight garrisons dodge,I have been shot while behind cover,I have been shot after I already went behind 10ft thick wall of concrete so I don't kno wether it's jsut the bullshit bad net codeing for the snipers or what but it's complete bullshit 2 be killed ever five seconds to mins by a pussy ass sniper (I have also been killed by bullshit means by people who don't use snipers aka mida needs a nerf to many pussies use it,along with shotguns apparently everyone else can shoot me from 2 feet away an kill me but when I do it they don't die)

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      • Did you know some people tape an X to the center of the screen to help no scope and quick scope

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        • Agreed

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        • Tldr

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        • Can I just say I have sniped since around half way through dark below, so it's not like I'm a shotgun warrior or anything. You should descope if you take damage while ads with a sniper. Simple as that. I though PopeBear from planet destiny had a perfect idea: On a regular sniper, any damage descope a you, if it has unflinching, it takes a precision to descope you. Snipers, fixed

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          • Buff primary TTK, undo shotgun handling nerf, problem solved.

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            • This 100%

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            • Using a sniper doesn't really take skill. Neither does using s shotgun. But being s good shotgunner or sniper takes skill

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            • You grow 3 heads? Also Tao yaun FTW

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            • using snipers does not take skill, being a good sniper does.

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            • Kappa

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            • Some parts do take skill, e.g , when someone jumps up and you have to track their head, but I agree that some have too much aim assist

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            • I have friends who are top tier players and they are godly with a sniper. Hand them a shotgun and they are worse than 90% of the garbage crying "shotguns take no skill" [i]has 1k yard w/hidden hand and shortgaze*[/i]

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              • Edited by Ronin Tanuki: 4/3/2016 8:06:04 PM
                So I take it you take advantage of the "no skill sniping," too? Right? ...or do you like making life difficult for yourself? Work smarter and not harder? [spoiler]one would think if everyone can/does do it, then it sorta cancels itself out. "If everyone is special..."[/spoiler]

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              • Welcome to 2016 where sniping is easy and shotgunning suddenly takes skill, somehow. All hail emperor Trump.

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              • You know who won't admit that Snipers are the problem? You know who keeps seeding these ideas of nerfing everything but Snipers? Streamers and YouTubers. Not all of them, just those "pros" who can't have a load out that doesn't include a long range weapon. No Land Beyond is the only sniper in the game that takes skill to use. It is very different. I recently started using it and am loving my time with it. It's teaching me to snipe better and smarter. Then there is 1KYS 0r 1000-Aim Assist- Stare. That thing is such bull. Take away Aim Assist on all snipers or just lower it. Sniping will take a hell of a lot more skill then.

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