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Edited by Dexter Grif:
3/27/2016 2:13:56 AM
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Green arrow isn't a legend. If the flash is involved than the legends, otherwise without him the avengers. I think you made the right choice though in crippling both sides as Thor, hulk, and the flash have ridiculous feats, to the point where Thor and hulk are galaxy busters, and the flash has been seen as a universe buster. All in all though I think that the avengers would win as the current line up on the DC side is crazy weak to everything. I mean they were chosen simply because they are the most useless heroes that rip could find.
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I'm using the MCU and CW versions not the comic versions. Also no Hulk, Thor, and Flash are NOWHERE NEAR that powerful even in the comics.
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Here is some back story and another feat. During the Human Race, Wally outraced instantaneous teleportation from the Cosmic Gamblers -- that could be seen as a pseuod time travel feat, though, as he raced across the fourth dimension to do it (The fourth dimension is time). Directly after that, though, he was definitely not time traveling. Over the span of one Septosecond, which is 0.000000000000000000001 seconds, he tuned every radio on Earth. There are 150,000,000 square kilometers of land on Earth. Light travels about 300,000 kilometers per second. To cover 150,000,000 kilometers, it would take light 500 seconds. For simplicity's sake, if you assume there is 1 radio for every square kilometer on earth (that is lowballing it greatly), that means he was traveling 500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times faster than light, or 500 septillion. Understand that I am greatly, greatly lowballing this feat as it doesn't take into account the time it takes him to tune every radio, the accurate density of radios per square kilometer (much higher than my guess, i just used mine to make the multiplication and division easier), radios that aren't on land (such as every boat on the planet that has a radio) or the time it takes him to search the square of every kilometer -- if he had to search every square inch then it'd be 500 septillion squared, or 250,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 which is 250 Quattuordecillion times the speed of light.
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Edited by Edcub One: 3/27/2016 4:12:55 AM[quote]Here is some back story and another feat. During the Human Race, Wally outraced instantaneous teleportation from the Cosmic Gamblers -- that could be seen as a pseuod time travel feat, though, as he raced across the fourth dimension to do it (The fourth dimension is time). ------ You can't move faster then instantaneous, so it was time travel or the teleportation was not instant. ------ Directly after that, though, he was definitely not time traveling. Over the span of one Septosecond, which is 0.000000000000000000001 seconds, he tuned every radio on Earth. ------ That is not instant. ------ There are 150,000,000 square kilometers of land on Earth. Light travels about 300,000 kilometers per second. To cover 150,000,000 kilometers, it would take light 500 seconds. For simplicity's sake, if you assume there is 1 radio for every square kilometer on earth (that is lowballing it greatly), that means he was traveling 500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times faster than light, or 500 septillion. ------ Are you sure their are that many radios? ------ Understand that I am greatly, greatly lowballing this feat as it doesn't take into account the time it takes him to tune every radio, the accurate density of radios per square kilometer (much higher than my guess, ------ Proof? Because most of earth is ocean. ------ i just used mine to make the multiplication and division easier), radios that aren't on land (such as every boat on the planet that has a radio) or the time it takes him to search the square of every kilometer -- if he had to search every square inch then it'd be 500 septillion squared, or 250,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 which is 250 Quattuordecillion times the speed of light.[/quote] ------ That is a insanely high end feat that defies his normal showings, it might even break setting. Also you can't measure kinetic energy beyond lightspeed.
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The first paragraph is second. I used the second as it was calculable. Also the comic was wrote in the 1980s where radios were much more common. Also I only calculated using land mass not oceans. And to counter your first claim. The characters who set up the simulated universe did in fact say no time travelling, and according to them (they are omniscient) he did not break the rules. Technically the reason you cannot calculate kinetic force is because according to our laws of physics, in order to go faster than light you must have no mass, but wally obviously has mass.
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[quote]The first paragraph is second. I used the second as it was calculable. Also the comic was wrote in the 1980s where radios were much more common. ------ Does that mean their where that meany radios? Also can I have a image of this feat? ------ Also I only calculated using land mass not oceans. And to counter your first claim. The characters who set up the simulated universe did in fact say no time travelling, and according to them (they are omniscient) he did not break the rules. Technically the reason you cannot calculate kinetic force is because according to our laws of physics, in order to go faster than light you must have no mass, but wally obviously has mass.[/quote] ------ Meaning we can't calculate power. Then it was not instant. Also these feats are insanely above his normal feats and setting breaking.
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While I'm looking for the image here is another example
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Edited by Edcub One: 3/27/2016 4:34:41 AMI'm fully aware of the Flashes high end feats, it just they break setting, and so I ignore them.
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What is breaking setting if I may ask
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When something makes it no sense within the continuity of events. Like why Flash didn't defeat every threat ever. And why he moves infinitely slower on a regular basis.
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Because plot
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Edited by Edcub One: 3/27/2016 4:44:54 AMBecame its a wanky feat that should be ignored. All characters have them.
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That feat is self contradictory as it says he moved at sub light speeds.
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Here is the radio one. Again let's not argue physics here as none of these comics follow our laws except for certain constants
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It wasn't instantaneous then.
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It can actually still be instant and not be the fastest. As according to string theory this is 100% possible as wally technically existed in all the places at once instead of each one instantly.
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Edited by Edcub One: 3/27/2016 4:44:06 AMHe still can't beat him to Earth because they will both be there at the same time. But in the end it makes no sense, plus he was buffed.
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He was buffed, but the earlier feat of saving people still stands. Just writers getting math wrong.
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He is not that fast or it renders most all events as absurd. So it should not be taken seriously.
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If it's canon than it has to be taken as serious and both these events are canon. The reason wally doesn't always go this fast is because it would kill him eventually, and would have a good chance of killing others, along with the fact they also limit themselves for their own enjoyement.
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No, if something contradicts the setting it can be ignored.
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I see that we both have different ideas on what should and should not be taken in to account when discussing feats, so I'm not going to further argue my side as neither of us will get anywhere. Thanks, for the discussion and argument, it was fun.
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Your welcome.
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And to continue this the force of punching something at that speed, assuming he is roughly 200 kg, is equal to a force approximately 3 times that of the big bang. And this is just for that feat alone. The faster than instantaneous transmission gives him infinite speed making him have infinite force, which means one single punch would destroy the entire multiverse.
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[quote]And to continue this the force of punching something at that speed, assuming he is roughly 200 kg, is equal to a force approximately 3 times that of the big bang. ------ You can measure power beyond light speed. ------ And this is just for that feat alone. The faster than instantaneous transmission gives him infinite speed making him have infinite force, which means one single punch would destroy the entire multiverse.[/quote] ------ No, this is setting breaking.
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Flash is stupidly powerful. I'd rather not argue physics based comic book feats, as going past light speed while having mass alone is impossible according to our laws. And what's setting breaking
