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Apparently, what [i]Bungie[/i] means by those words isn't what I [i]want them[/i] to mean.
Now, what I [i]want[/i] them to mean (and I assume I'm not the only one) is that I'm going to be able to take my [i][b]existing[/b][/i] Y1 gear and bring it up to current Y2 standards. However, what they actually mean is that we're going to have to re-earn our Y1 gear, [i]again[/i]. That is entirely missing the mark, in my eyes.
[b]To explain;[/b]
When myself, or others in the community bring up the desire for updated Y1 content, we're not [i]solely[/i] requesting an update to existing Y1 [b]activities[/b], because that's only half the issue; we've also been voicing a desire for updating our existing Y1 [i]gear[/i].
While often discussed as a single concept, these are two very [i]distinct[/i] requests, that serve to address two very [i]different[/i] shortcomings; the former would alleviate the apparent lack of content, but the latter would be a step towards Bungie [i]re[/i]-establishing their respect for players' efforts, by validation the rewards they've already earned.
Now, the first one is pretty self-explanatory, and is an important step to addressing Destiny's [i]immediate[/i] issues, no doubt. However, the issue of gear is less cut-and-dry, because it isn't just about adding more content; it's about showing players [i]respect[/i], which is more import to Destiny's [i]long-term issues[/i] of player-retention and trust.
As a result, if our existing Y1 gear [b]isn't[/b] brought forward, and Bungie simply adds [i]new[/i] Endgame gear in its place (however similar it may be to its predecessors), it wouldn't fully accomplish the same end. It might have a similar effect [i]on the surface[/i], in that it [i]would[/i] ultimately help to increase gear variety and rejuvenate existing Y1 content, but it would [i]still[/i] continue to overlook the incredibly crucial issue of [i]respecting[/i] the players, and the efforts they [i]already put into the game[/i].
[b]Now, Bungie;[/b]
At this point, there's obviously not enough time to change what you guys have planned for the April Update, so I understand that the immediate fate of our Y1 gear isn't going to change between now and then. However, I still think that publicly having this discussion is crucial, because even if we can't find solutions to these issues [i]immediately[/i], they will continue to persist into the future, and the sooner we can find common ground between the community and the developers, the better.
If the game respects the player, then the player will respect the game, and I think that's what we all want; mutual respect. :)
[b]TL;DR- If players are asking for their old gear to matter again (and a ton of us are!), then the only way to satisfy that request is by doing [i]just[/i] that; allowing them to upgrade their [i]existing[/i] gear.
Even if Bungie goes so far as to re-introduce classic gear back into the loot pool for players to get [i]again[/i] (like what's happeneing with select Y1 gear in the April Update), it is [i]NOT[/i] the same thing, and it doesn't [i]accomplish[/i] the same thing. When we ask for our gear to mean something, we literally mean [i]our[/i] gear, the stuff we already have [i]in our hands[/i] (virtually speaking, of course).[/b]
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Edited by N7riseSSJ: 3/21/2016 7:07:41 AMNice to see ya here again. Good post. It seems Bungie likes to take out the Glue and Tape when "fixing" and "adding." But really they still haven't just replaced the problems with actual solutions. And people are still buying and falling for this tape filled glue mess. Also by giving us vague information, they are further extenuating the their tortuous methods. It's always a -blam!-ing game with this company. Is it really so hard to just be straightforward?
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Bump. Bungie, I won't come back till you respect my time and bring all year 1 gear to the current level cap. I have no intention of regrinding for gear I already own. With the release of Destiny 2 is when my gear becomes obsolete. These terms are non-negotiable! It's my time and money you want.
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Mate the answer is already quite simple, you remember when year 2 trials launched ? We get reskinned weapons and identical gear cosmetically at year 2 rng light levels... It sucks on paper so it will most defo suck after a week of launch... Looking forward for that rebalancing tho lol
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Why the hell do you want to go through grind of leveling up gear we have had for over a year minus the fact that droves of people will bitch and complain about how they were screwed cause they deleted their worthless year1 stuff because they were lead to believe it was obsolete by bungie
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My question is simply this: If we get more gear in the upcoming update, will we get more vault space? The last time I ran out of vault space I just quit playing rather than trying to figure out what to dismantle. That was about five months ago iirc.
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I don't think they'll bring back much, if any y1 content.
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If they bring back any old gear, it need to be the PoE gear. In my opinion it is the coolest of all raid armor. And yes I consider PoE as a raid.
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I don't want to re earn gear I've already earned in the past. I want to log on and get new higher light gear with the option to infuse added to existing year one gear.
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It's new numbers on challenge mode gear. That's it.
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As much as it pains me to say, I'm pretty sure it's only POE they are updating. By far the ugliest gear they ever made.
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Bumparooni!!
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Valid not vindicated
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Nope. Updated likely means more exotics. And if speculations are true, then probably the PoE gear as well.