For not liking Marvel films?

For saying they're all the same.

They are.

Not even close to the same.

Hero man fights disposable villain man, makes "comedic" quips the entire time he's doing it, references previous movies and other heroes in order to tie the story into the larger universe, and sets up the next movie after the credits. The tone is action-packed, but upbeat. It never gets too dark or heavy, and there is no threat of death to any of the characters except the villains. (Coulson is the sole exception in the films thus far, and he almost doesn't count because they brought him back in the damn TV show.)

No threat of death? Tony has almost died multiple times. Bucky beat Cap within an inch of his life. Quicksilver was killed by Ultron. And as for dark tones...the Cap movies are easily the darkest out of all the films. They are all political and not meant to be funny at all. They have SOME humor so they don't feel like a dark knight movie, but they're definitely not the happy funny type like Iron Man or Guardians of the Galaxy. Also, you have to understand the characters. Iron man is SUPPOSED to be a funny guy. Same with Guardians of the Galaxy and several others. The most famous funny character of all is Spider-Man. So really, it's not about the movies being the same. It's about staying true to the comics. You say the villains are always disposable. Well [i]yeah...[/i]that's kind of how comics work. The hero has to stay alive until their death can be written into the story [i]after[/i] they've had loads of character development. You can't just throw a character on screen and have them dead by the end of the movie.

[quote]No threat of death? Tony has almost died multiple times. Bucky beat Cap within an inch of his life. Quicksilver was killed by Ultron. [/quote] And did you, as a viewer, ever seriously believe that any of them would die? I didn't see Age of Ultron, but I know they brought Quicksilver in as a "one and done" character specifically so they could kill him off in Age of Ultron. You know why they did that? Because [i]there is no threat of death in these movies[/i], so they had no choice but to bring in a new guy that they [i]could[/i] kill, to create the [i]illusion[/i] of a threat of death. [quote]And as for dark tones...the Cap movies are easily the darkest out of all the films. They are all political and not meant to be funny at all. They have SOME humor so they don't feel like a dark knight movie, but they're definitely not the happy funny type like Iron Man or Guardians of the Galaxy.[/quote] I saw the first one. It felt the same as all the others, and I certainly wouldn't describe it as "political". Maybe the second one feels different. I don't know, but that's [i]one movie[/i]. You're telling me all the Cap movies are political and not funny, based on one movie. [quote]Also, you have to understand the characters. Iron man is SUPPOSED to be a funny guy. Same with Guardians of the Galaxy and several others. The most famous funny character of all is Spider-Man. [/quote] Okay, but literally all of them feel the same. There are different ways to be funny, you know. Different types of humor. They shouldn't all feel the same. [quote]So really, it's not about the movies being the same. It's about staying true to the comics.[/quote] A real director wouldn't be afraid to tweak things as needed. The goal should be to make the best movie possible, not to fellate the fans. [quote]You say the villains are always disposable. Well [i]yeah...[/i]that's kind of how comics work. The hero has to stay alive until their death can be written into the story [i]after[/i] they've had loads of character development.[/quote] I know that, but it doesn't mean the villains have to be disposable. Even if they introduce a new one every movie, they can still give them actual motivations and personalities. Literally every villain apart from Loki and Thanos is a one-note generic "conquer the world" sap who gets killed or permanently incapacitated by the end of the movie. It's so predictable. I know exactly how every Marvel movie will end before I even watch it. Here's an idea. [i]Let the villain escape once in a while. [/i]The heroes can still win, of course (because they're heroes after all), but the villain could live to die another day. Or how about [i]Pyrrhic victories[/i]? Or perhaps [i]journeys of self-discovery[/i] that don't focus on a generic "kill the bad guy" plot? There is precedent for all of these things in the comics. [quote]You can't just throw a character on screen and have them dead by the end of the movie.[/quote] And yet that is how they handle literally every villain in their movies, save for a select few.

Loki is probably their best villain right now. Mandarin could have been great, but, this part I agree with you on, they ruined his character. Honestly...I hated all of the Iron Man villains. Whiplash was easily the best out of all of them. The guy he fights in IM3 was literally just some random guy they pulled out of their ass. But Whiplash was good and they just killed him. As far as Cap's villains...Red Skull isn't confirmed dead. He disappeared into the Tesseract, the space gem, so they could easily write that he was simply teleported and not killed. Then you have Bucky who had TONS of character development in Winter Soldier, and who'll get more in Civil War. The Hulk's villains, Abomination & Thunderbolt Ross are both still alive. Ross even got a promotion to Secretary of State. Scarlet Witch ended up joining the Avengers. I was really mad they killed Ultron. They could have easily just let the last Ultron escape instead of killing him off. All in all, I agree with you they don't have to let the villains have such short ropes. Then again, I see their side. They have to be careful they don't leave each movie with too many loose ends, since their goal is an extended cinematic universe. They have to be careful they don't overload the universe with too many subplots or the quality is guaranteed to decline.

Which is why it's better to just not have a cinematic universe in the first place. It's such a bad idea. It shackles the movies to this larger behemoth that stifles any real progress in the stories. It also prevents the writers & directors from actually giving the movies their own style and tone, because they wouldn't want to clash with the "cinematic universe" too hard. Ugh. I don't understand why people get so excited about character crossovers. It's a gimmick, and it's literally one of the most corporate things you can do with a film franchise.