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GMOS are safe, every major health, scientific, and food agency in the world says so
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  • GMOs not only interact with chemicals inside of your body in unnatural and unpredictable ways sometimes, they force evolution in often detrimental ways GMOs should've never been created. Humans shouldn't try to play god.

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  • If that was true, then I think we'd have figured it out by now, considering GMOs are the most tested agricultural product in history, and they've been around for almost 20 years

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  • 20? That's all you think? No, man, they've been around for much longer... GMOs destroy crops and stuff too All of the studies I've seen have been conveniently funded by the companies being tested

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  • The first GMO went on the market in the mid 90s. GMOS also don't destroy crops, they improve them.

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  • Don't bother arguing with conspiracy theorists.

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  • True.

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  • I think they say that because, obviously, GMOs don't kill you on the spot. I think it's more like damage over time. Why is cancer so common now? It was extremely rare before just recently. I've just been theorizing, and I think it has something to do with the food that is now disgusting, genetically modified, and loaded with chemicals. I mean look at the ingredients to a box of store bought cookies, half the stuff on there you can't even pronounce!

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  • Those are chemicals, and they don't really have anything to do with the genetics if the food. It's all the processing and preservatives that are bad.

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  • Those go hand in hand.

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  • [i] *wipes hand; it smells of mortality* [/i] Cancer has always been around. But think about this: Once upon a time weak mutations in human bloodlines died off and the superior ones continued on. Now everyone lives thanks to health care. So the seeming increase in cancer could be as simple as there are more of us so there's more cancer, or it could actually be increased due to failed genetic mutations continuing on when they should die.

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  • I don't know. Cancer's always been around but now it's EXTREMELY common. It was very rare until just recently. You could be right, but I still think it's due to the chemical loaded food we're eating.

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  • Which is unrelated to the genetics of the food

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  • Well that's the thing, you don't know that. They take out a seemingly "useless" gene. Then they replace that gene with an artificial one. This creates combinations of plant, animal, bacteria, and viral genes that do not occur in nature nor through traditional selective breeding methods. Most developed countries do not consider GMOs safe. Including Australia, Japan, India, and all the countries in the EU. In the U.S., the government has approved GMOs based on studies conducted by the same corporations that produce them. In reality, GM foods are not safe to eat. The GM transformation process can produce mutagenic effects that can disrupt or alter gene structure, disturb normal gene regulatory processes, or cause effects at other levels of biological structure and function. These effects can result in unintended changes in composition, including new toxins or allergens and/or disturbed nutritional value. The GM gene product (I.e. The Bt toxin in GM insecticidal crops.) can be toxic or allergenic on it's own! Changes in farming practices linked to the use of a GMO can result in toxic residues. I.e. Higher levels of crop contamination with the herbicide Roundup are an inevitable result of using GM Roundup Ready crops. Altered chemical value is of concern for two reasons: first, because it directly affects the health of the animal/human that eats it through providing an excess or shortage of certain nutrients; and second, because it is an indicator that the GM process has altered biochemical processes in the plant. This hints at other unexpected and unidentified changes have also occurred that may also impact the human/animals health. For example altered toxicity. Many experiments have been done, and I can give you a LONG list of them but here's just one. http://www.gmoseralini.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/GES-final-study-19.9.121.pdf This is an experiment done on rats that showed [u]an increase in tumors/malignant growths when fed GM food.[/u] This is what I'm talking about; I can provide a whole list of experiments done that show numerous health problems that showed up after being on a diet of GM food. However this one is pressing to me. It's shows that GMOs may very well be the reason that cancer rates are at an extreme high.

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  • This was in GMO OMG the rats developed tumors all over their body in a short amount of time.

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  • GMO backwards. OMG Mind blown.

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  • Edited by tjustie: 2/19/2016 11:53:25 PM
    The other studies you're talking about may have merit to them, but the Seralini study you cited is a [i]very[/i] highly criticized study that actually got retracted from the first journal it was published in, because the journal, and most of the scientific community, decided that it was a flawed study and came to poorly made conclusions. It's not at all a good study to look at as evidence of GMOs being harmful.

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  • Brasil FB, Soares LL, Faria TS, Boaventura GT, Sampaio FJ, Ramos CF. The impact of dietary organic and transgenic soy on the reproductive system of female adult rat. Anat Rec Hoboken. 2009;292:587–94. doi:10.1002/ar.20878. Carman JA, Vlieger HR, Ver Steeg LJ, et al. A long-term toxicology study on pigs fed a combined genetically modified (GM) soy and GM maize diet. J Org Syst. 2013;8:38–54. Lynas M. GMO pigs study – more junk science. marklynas.org. 2013. Available at: http://www.marklynas. org/2013/06/gmo-pigs-study-more-junk-science/. Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ). Response to a feeding study in pigs by Carman et al. 2013. Available at: http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/consumer/gmfood/Pages/Response-to-Dr-Carman%27s-study.aspx. Carman J. Response to FSANZ [personal email communication]. 2014. Séralini GE, Mesnage R, Clair E, Gress S, de Vendômois JS, Cellier D. Genetically modified crops safety assessments: Present limits and possible improvements. 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  • God damn that's a lot of words condensed into one longass paragraph.

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  • I can show you my list. I used that one because it talked about tumor growth, which related to my idea of cancer. However I don't want to use a flawed experiment. Here's the list. Séralini GE, Clair E, Mesnage R, et al. [RETRACTED:] Long term toxicity of a Roundup herbicide and a Roundup- tolerant genetically modified maize. Food Chem Toxicol. 2012;50:4221-4231. EndScienceCensorship.org. Statement: Journal retraction of Séralini GMO study is invalid and an attack on scientific integrity. 2014. Available at: http://www.endsciencecensorship.org/en/page/Statement#.UwUSP14vFY4. Institute of Science in Society. Open letter on retraction and pledge to boycott Elsevier. 2013. Available at: http:// www.i-sis.org.uk/Open_letter_to_FCT_and_Elsevier.php#form. Gab-Alla AA, El-Shamei ZS, Shatta AA, Moussa EA, Rayan AM. Morphological and biochemical changes in male rats fed on genetically modified corn (Ajeeb YG). J Am Sci. 2012;8(9):1117–1123. El-Shamei ZS, Gab-Alla AA, Shatta AA, Moussa EA, Rayan AM. Histopathological changes in some organs of male rats fed on genetically modified corn (Ajeeb YG). J Am Sci. 2012;8(10):684–696. Hines FA. Memorandum to Linda Kahl on the Flavr Savr tomato (Pathology Review PR–152; FDA Number FMF– 000526): Pathology Branch’s evaluation of rats with stomach lesions from three four-week oral (gavage) toxicity studies (IRDC Study Nos. 677–002, 677–004, and 677–005) and an Expert Panel’s report. US Department of Health & Human Services; 1993. Available at: http://www.biointegrity.org/FDAdocs/17/view1.html. Pusztai A. Witness Brief – Flavr Savr tomato study in Final Report (IIT Research Institute, Chicago, IL 60616 USA) cited by Dr Arpad Pusztai before the New Zealand Royal Commission on Genetic Modification. 2000. Available at: http://www.gmcommission.govt.nz/. Pusztai A. Can science give us the tools for recognizing possible health risks of GM food? Nutr Health. 2002;16:73-84. US District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly. Alliance for Bio-Integrity v Shalala (No. 98-1300 D.D.C.). 2000. Available at: http://bit.ly/MnQV0x. Scheuplein RJ. Memorandum: Response to Calgene amended petition. 1993. Available at: http://www.biointegrity. org/FDAdocs/11/view1.html. Pusztai A, Bardocz S, Ewen SWB. Genetically modified foods: Potential human health effects. In: D’Mello JPF, ed. Food Safety: Contaminants and Toxins. Wallingford, Oxon: CABI Publishing; 2003:347–372. Available at: http://www. leopold.iastate.edu/sites/default/files/events/Chapter16.pdf. Prescott VE, Campbell PM, Moore A, et al. Transgenic expression of bean alpha-amylase inhibitor in peas results in altered structure and immunogenicity. J Agric Food Chem. 2005;53:9023–30. doi:10.1021/jf050594v. Lee RY, Reiner D, Dekan G, Moore AE, Higgins TJV, Epstein MM. Genetically modified alpha-amylase inhibitor peas are not specifically allergenic in mice. PloS One. 2013;8:e52972. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0052972. Higgins TJ. Presentation at the GMSAFOOD conference, Vienna, Austria, 6-8 March 2012 [video]. 2012. Available at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKda722clq8. Higgins TJ. GMSAFOOD project press conference [video]. 2012. Available at: http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=gHUKE_luMR8. Finamore A, Roselli M, Britti S, et al. Intestinal and peripheral immune response to MON810 maize ingestion in weaning and old mice. J Agric Food Chem. 2008;56:11533–39. doi:10.1021/jf802059w. Kroghsbo S, Madsen C, Poulsen M, et al. Immunotoxicological studies of genetically modified rice expressing PHA-E lectin or Bt toxin in Wistar rats. Toxicology. 2008;245:24-34. doi:10.1016/j.tox.2007.12.005. Krzyzowska M, Wincenciak M, Winnicka A, et al. The effect of multigenerational diet containing genetically modified triticale on immune system in mice. Pol J Vet Sci. 2010;13:423-30. Malatesta M, Biggiogera M, Manuali E, Rocchi MBL, Baldelli B, Gazzanelli G. Fine structural analyses of pancreatic acinar cell nuclei from mice fed on genetically modified soybean. Eur J Histochem. 2003;47:385–388. Malatesta M, Caporaloni C, Gavaudan S, et al. Ultrastructural morphometrical and immunocytochemical analyses of hepatocyte nuclei from mice fed on genetically modified soybean. Cell Struct Funct. 2002;27:173–80. Vecchio L, Cisterna B, Malatesta M, Martin TE, Biggiogera M. Ultrastructural analysis of testes from mice fed on genetically modified soybean. Eur J Histochem. 2004;48:448-54. Malatesta M, Boraldi F, Annovi G, et al. A long-term study on female mice fed on a genetically modified soybean effects on liver ageing. Histochem Cell Biol. 2008;130:967–977. Tudisco R, Lombardi P, Bovera F, et al. Genetically modified soya bean in rabbit feeding: Detection of DNA fragments and evaluation of metabolic effects by enzymatic analysis. Anim Sci. 2006;82:193–199. doi:10.1079/ASC200530. List is too long, I need to break it up.

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  • Cancer has been as prevalent in the past as it was today. Hell, we know for a fact that a certain t-Rex had pancreatic cancer.

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  • Yeah every one of those are backed and funded by the corporations that make the GMOs. Think about it, when big tobacco was "safe" and cigarettes were healthy for you, all the studies said so too, because all of them were funded and ran by big tobacco.

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  • Humans have been modifying plants and animals for desirable traits for a very long time. The recent technological advancements have just made it a faster process and have opened new opportunities. The problem is all the processing and added chemicals to the food that makes them unhealthy.

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  • Edited by Undying Serpent: 2/19/2016 9:13:42 PM
    [quote]Think about it, when big tobacco was "safe" and cigarettes were healthy for you, all the studies said so too, because all of them were funded and ran by big tobacco.[/quote] Citation needed. No websites, blogs, etc. I want peer-reviewed articles from that time period that back up this claim.

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  • Dude. That's true. You don't need a citation for that.

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  • Bullshit, that's not how science works. If it's as well documented as you claim, why would there be any problem posting peer-reviewed publications on the matter?

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