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originally posted in: Thorn is op or not
2/12/2016 10:49:47 AM
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Trust me SBMM is definitely in full swing. I have countered Thorns before too. Just as i have countered Sunsingers, pre nerf and post nerf TLW and Thorn, pre nerf Sunbreakers ect. Does this mean that these things werent OP? Well obviously Bungie thought so because they nerfed them. A gun that has DoT, has primary ammo, more range than your average HC, a faster fire rate, and a decent reload is OP in damn near every sense. Why choose a legendary HC or Hawkmoon when Thorn does even more work but with less effort. Thorn is OP. It doesnt need to be nerfed into the ground but slight changes are needed. There is a reason why it has always dominated the sweaty meta.
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  • And if you hadn't have insulted my KD we could have had a better conversation. It's not that bad anyway considering I'm not bothered about it. I still kill as much as I die haha

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  • I apologize for that. I didnt intend for it to come off as douchey but i can see how you took it that way. Was just trying to show that Thorn is a problem at the higher levels of play and it will trickle into the lower levels as well. Its not fun no matter what you do playing full teams of Thorn shotgunners.

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  • Yeah I hate them sliding conspiracy theory ds with range finder on. Mine is crap. I generally use bad juju and sniper/fusion. I'll let you off for the insult, for a dirty casual I don't think my KD is that bad (it's better than my husbands anyway and he's classed as higher skilled than me lol :/) I understand you want balance, but I suppose It's hard, I like to play with guns I enjoy, not the ones that are part of the "meta" I sort of stick to what I love.

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  • I like to do the same thing. Constant TLW, Thorn and snipers or shotguns is boring. MIDA may be a beast now but i have always used it. Even when Thorn was king. Sidearms are now a great secondary too. They sort of bridge the gap between shotguns and fusions. Your KD isnt bad but i was just trying to prove a point. Playing against really good players using the cheapest tactics is quite frustrating. Thorn is the easist fix considering no matter what it will always be somewhat OP due to the DoT.

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  • Yeah getting killed by the same gun is annoying. I just think an exotic should be an exotic and at the moment there's better legendaries than some of the exotics. I think they should bring most of the exotics up a notch rather than nerf others. Like Plan C, I hadn't used that in months and got it out the other day and my God that's took a beating. My husband has always used MIDA, I don't use it only for the simple fact that the sound of it drives me insane haha!

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  • I understand that logic and agree to an extent. Many exotics feel exotic without providing any meaningful upgrades over their legendary counterparts. The Skolas weapons are great examples of this. Exotics should feel unique, not fundamentally broken. Thorn is just too damn good right now. I wake up from nightmares of that damn green goop all across your screen.

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  • Hahaha I think you need a holiday from Destiny haha, although I did wake up the other day telling my hubby that the snipers were out haha!

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  • How you've been talking though, you fit into that category of people. The only thing I've encountered that was OP is Sunbreaker, pre nerf thorn, vex. Thorn isn't any good in IB or Trials. The problem with bungie is they can't seem to do a slight nerf/buff can they?

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  • No because i want balance. Right now primaries are in a good place. Every weapon has their range and only some need slight tweaking. The only weapon that continues to break the meta is Thorn. It is hard to balance DoT, not to mention on a primary with damn near unlimited ammo.

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  • Maybe a good thing to do is limit its ammo then?

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  • Something. It just has the perfect amount of AA, stability, fire rate, magazine and damage. It makes things like Hawkmoon useless. DoT only on precision hits would a good idea as well.

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