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originally posted in: Mida needs some tweaks
1/26/2016 3:41:14 PM
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You'll eventually get what you're asking for and then we'll all rotate to the next weapon that has the advantage. It's a never ending cycle. Why some people just don't get this is crazy to me. Every shooter has these kinds of weapons and any decent player realizes it and uses them. Whether it's a certain scope, weapon or strategy, there will never be an even balance and players will take advantage of it. It's all part of being a gamer.
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  • I have to disagree. Any decent player will realize the gun is powerful and either continue using it, or learn how to beat it. What separates good players from great players is that great players play to their own strengths. They learn how to counter popular trends. Meanwhile, the good players will migrate to whatever meta they believe will garner wins. I get what you're saying but the message is biased. If that's how you operate, fine. But understand that the only way that trend will die is when players realize that these types of games are designed more like Chess. Where superior tactics will always beat out whatever meta is in style. Because at the end of the day, the meta is defined but whatever shared notion the community has of what's "powerful." TL;DR Don't be a meta chaser.

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  • Claim what you want but my point stands and that's what every person that gets on here complaining about weapons and things of that nature fail to realize. I don't consider myself a meta chaser but I'm not going to simply lay down and get shredded because I want to be stubborn and use what I like rather than use what works. Get it? What works. To add to that a little, many of the weapons work if used properly. Close range weapons work well against weapons that aren't close range and so on. IMO it's not Mida that's the true op weapon at the moment. It's the last word. Same when everyone complained about thorn. Thorn was manageable, the last word was the real problem.

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  • [quote]Claim what you want but my point stands and that's what every person that gets on here complaining about weapons and things of that nature fail to realize.[/quote] Hey, if you disagree with me, that's understandable. Although my point is exactly that: everyone is complaining because they share the same mentality. That mentality then feeds the "meta." [quote]I don't consider myself a meta chaser but I'm not going to simply lay down and get shredded because I want to be stubborn and use what I like rather than use what works. Get it? What works.[/quote] More to my point, bud. Have you ever played TCGs? I used to play Cardfight Vanguard and that was exactly the same mentality. The point is: what will always work is tactics. When that fails, then Bungie will buff/nerf. I'm fully confident we're not there yet. I'd like for you to keep a very common phrase in mind: if you can't beat them, join them. Keep it in mind because that is the central ideology of Destiny's meta. Cardfight Vanguard's meta. Any meta in any game that exists. My point is not that you're a meta chaser, it's that you can't beat the meta, so you join it. You can't beat it not because you're a bad player, but because you insist that the meta is some indelible facet of the game. If you learn the tactics to outmaneuver these meta choices, then you'll be free to play whatever works for you. Which takes work, but again, that's what separates good players from great players. You have to decide for yourself which you want to be. [quote]To add to that a little, many of the weapons work if used properly. Close range weapons work well against weapons that aren't close range and so on. IMO it's not Mida that's the true op weapon at the moment. It's the last word. Same when everyone complained about thorn. Thorn was manageable, the last word was the real problem.[/quote] The Last Word is fine. I have yet to be killed by the gun where it wasn't my fault. And by that I mean I inadvertently played into the gun's strengths. Get the gun, or use it if you have it. Learn where you need your opponent to maximize the gun's effectiveness. Then, when you're playing against it, *don't go there.* Which may sound like an obvious answer, but it's the deceptively simple things that prove to be the hardest to accomplish.

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  • Call me what you want, bud. Use whatever example you need to prove your point, but simply said people adjust to whatever is thrown at them. Some don't. That's part of my point that you've seemed to have missed. Instead you throw out meta chaser like its some degrading function players crutch with or something. Even though you've tried to make it a personal attack I do understand part of what you are trying to say but it's just an adjustment rather than some follow the leader mess you are trying to justify. It's not a big deal if you don't agree with what I'm saying. We're all entitled to an opinion...

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  • Bud, I'm not calling you anything. I'm not trying to insult you. Point I'm trying to make is that the meta game is a construct fully managed by the community. Play however you want, though. I don't care, man. So long as you're having fun, that's what's important. But I don't know you, and I'm not presumptuous enough to try to insult you.

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