I don't even care about the constant "sweaty games" so much it's the endless lag and glitches that have appeared in the last couple months that make Crucible unbearable, the lag in particular that has accompanied SBMM has effectively ruined Crucible. I didn't really get into Crucible until around the time House of Wolves came out but ever since I've been playing Crucible daily and now I don't even want to start up Destiny because Crucible is unplayable in it's current state and PVE is frankly unrewarding and boring now (I know most liked TTK PVE content and I enjoyed it for a couple weeks but VOG and Crota were the PVE glory days IMO). As I did, I believe most of the OG players and core fan base of Destiny have shifted towards Crucible. If Bungie cares about building loyalty towards this franchise they better start listening to the players who invest time into this game and spend less time trying to convince us that their "data" knows what's good for us.