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Edited by KrishnaDaBeast: 1/26/2016 2:59:15 AM
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*ENDED* PETITION TO GET RID OF SBMM (SKILL BASED MATCH MAKING) THERE IS HOPE :D

This is killing PvP for me and a lot of players in the Destiny community. [b](TL;DR is down below)[/b] Skill based match making is matching people with "Equal" skill even if it's across continents and that just put lag on a whole new level. There should be ranked playlist and dedicated servers if they want to introduce skill-based matchmaking, so, for now, they should reintroduce connection based match making. Crucible is so sweaty, and it requires you to give the game 100% percent concentration if you want to win a match, which just ruins the fun in playing it in the first place. If you are in the higher ranks and want to use any other guns than the meta=RIP If you play with play with some of your friends who aren't as good=RIP Bungie the last two COD games tried skill based match making and have failed miserably (For example Advanced Warfare) [b][u] [i]TL; DR= Replace skill based matchmaking with connection based matchmaking before it's too late.[/u] [/i][/b] Bungie needs to listen to the community and go back to connection based matchmaking because of the Lag and crucible feeling more of a chore than it being fun. This is a casual game, and if you want it to be competitive then you got to introduce Private matches, dedicated servers and ranked playlist. [u][b]Guys please if you agree please sign and upvote this so people can see. Leave a comment about why you also hate SBMM. If you disagree with this post or some parts of this post please leave me a detailed comment explaining why. [/b][/u] If we want Destiny to be saved then we got to start somewhere important. Let your voices be heard! (Also, tell me if there are any grammatical mistakes or any spelling mistakes) [b]EDIT: Wow you guys are awesome! Keep signing and bumping so hopefully Bungie could see this and the many other posts out there.[/b] [b]EDIT: Please also do not forget to Upvote or click the like button on this post so more people can see this, thank you.[/b] [b] EDIT: 550+ Upvotes? Damn guys keep doing what you are doing. Bungie will have to see this. [/b] For the people that are saying "Oh now it's competitive, wow the horror." Then this is what I personally have to say to you [quote] Have you seen the crucible lately? It's latency issues are on a whole new level because of SBMM. A game like this with no dedicated servers should just stick to P2P connections which you clearly can't comprehend. I could play competitively when I want to feel like it. I organize scrims against competitive people all the time. But when I want to win matches.and have fun, I do not want to sweat and concentrate 100% for the whole watch just to have a chance at winning. It's funny if you actually think Destiny with no crucible balance, no dedicated servers, no ranked playlist, and no private matches could be competitive. [/quote] This is gold [quote] The pure idiocy is they've removed the fun of occasionally having an easier or harder match. It's sweaty all the time, especially if you improve. And further proof of the idiocy is this: where is the reward system that matches the SBMM? So you're going to give people more difficult matches, but reward them with a mote of light? Pull your head out of your ass Bungie,[/quote] By IronChalice For the "special people" that think SBMM is fine and you the top tier players or any players should be forced into laggy games so they don't play against people close to them. Please I challenge you to go read this great post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188142897/0/0 [u][i][b]EDIT: We have around 1600+ Signatures and Bumps. Let's hope Bungie sees this. Tweet this at them. Anything. Just keep Upvoting, bumping, and signing. If you disagree, please don't be ignorant because you post. Read what I and the people in this post are saying before speaking out. I would love to hear everyone's opinion but make it detailed. [/b][/i][/u] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVAYD-jWfY A video I found on Reddit. It's an SBMM Lagtage Best comment IMO [quote]I'm not against skilled based matchmaking. Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on. Halo 3, in my opinion, had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated. In order for this to work, though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time. I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same.[/quote] [u][b]By The Medic44[/b][/u] [i][u][b] EDIT: Keep on Upvoting, bumping, sharing, commenting, tweeting, anything. Bungo needs to see this clear flaw with PvP and how this alone could kill Destiny. I don't care about the content shortage if it means I can have fun in PvP but now I can't even do that. Bungie, you are killing your own game by not listening to us![/b][/u][/i] [i][u][b] EDIT: OMG 900+ Upvotes and no Bungie. BUNGO SAY SOMETHING. ANYTHING. GET RID OF SBMM. The majority wants it. Guys keep doing what you are doing. We need to get 1000 Upvotes so hopefully BUNGIE can see people don't want SBMM[/b][/u][/i] [quote] HUGE EDIT:Guys, an update about matchmaking! https://www.bungie.net/7_Matchmaking-Updates/en/News/News?aid=14278 Matchmaking will have more emphasis on connection starting WEDNESDAY. ONLY in Iron Banner. They will analyze that and then roll the matchmaking changes out to more Crucible playlists over time. We have yet to see if these changes will fix the issues, but this looks like a partial win with a full win incoming at an unspecified date. People, PLAY the EFF out if IB after Wednesday's update goes live. Let's let them know with our play time that we want the matchmaking to be CONNECTION based first, skill second.[/quote] [u][b]By Irivingjohn 1985[/b][/u] [i][b] 1000+ Signatures and Bungie finally said something. But it's a beta test, or it would feel like it so please PLAY THE EFF OUT OF IT AND TELL BUNGIE YOU LIKE IT. THIS PETITION HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SIGNING, BUMPING, AND COMMENTING. Tell Bungie you like the new matchmaking, if you like it, please. Someone else should make a petition asking for Bungie to keep the matchmaking if it's good. As for now I have done my job.[/b][/i] [b]WE -blam!-ING WON BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S GO[/b]

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  • Signed. Too much lag.

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  • Signed, besides if we can't have dedicated servers then we need connections to be priority. It only makes sense to have the best experience possible, sbmm only deserves to exist as long as dedicated servers exist.

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    • Please. Please please pleaaaassse

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    • Signed! They need to get rid of skill based matchmaking. Every game is a horrible sweaty laggy nightmare.

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    • What's skilled based match making? When did this become a thing?

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      • Instead, let bungie imply both. I have fun, going against a good team, but I do be lagging like a mother -blam!-er some times. Even if there is "skilled based matchmaking" I never go up against people that are worth the time really, or its reverse, my team is nowhere near as good as me. I find myself always at the top, not trying to brag or show off or anything, but its always I have the shit team or the over team isn't a challenge, unless you party up or something

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      • I dnt care about tht this game is bor re d btw

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      • Separate playlists. Not complete removal

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      • If you actually want this petition to work, players need to pick a day when they will purposefully not play Crucible.

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      • Too tired to read, but signed! As someone who should be happy to be playing people more my skill level I'd be a lot happier getting my ass kicked in a lag free match!

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      • Look, as much as I would like to believe that signing here is going to magically force Bungie to change the game, it is as bad a Facebook likes, that would magically cure a kid with a fatal disease. They don't care, they don't read these comments (save for the Ninjas, who wield more power than the actual development staff), and they don't want to listen. In the end, Bungie has the power to do whatever they want to this game, my evidence? Valentine's Crucible, instead of fixing the skill based matchmaking, you are getting skill based matchmaking, with Valentine's theme. So, we can sign all the forum posts we want, but they will briefly look over it, scoff, close it, and go back to whatever they want to do. Hell, it isn't even most of the employees at Bungie who want this playstyle, I guarantee they likely don't get heard as much as we do. No, its the higher ups, ears clogged with the imaginary sounds of the thousand of dollars they are making, for making terrible decisions. Will they pay for dedicated servers? No, they won't, they will do whatever costs less. Will they go back to connection based matchmaking? Depends, if this game is really going under, then don't be stupid, they won't fix it, they will choose the safety net option of spending less money to make the game terrible, so they can justify shutting it down, and reallocating the resources ( both technological and human) to other games. Good luck with your petition, for your sakes, I hope it gets addressed. P.S, Deej and Cozmo are not "Higher Ups" they get paid to listen and respond when they are told to, then take the heat. Don't get mad at them, Ninjas almost have more power.

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        • Edited by Prototype 6 6 7: 1/24/2016 2:34:04 PM
          Sbmm has no place in unranked game types, if anything it should be in Iron Banner and ToO only.

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          • Edited by shroomboyy: 1/24/2016 3:34:21 PM
            How about this. Keep sbmm, fix lag,add ranked unranked and private/custom games. Most casual players don't like getting destroyed every game because a couple MLG wannabe tryhards want to boost their kd. It ruins the game for us and we are the vast majority of players. There should be an unranked mode that has no effect on stats or character progression for when people just want to chill. Just go into any classic playlist. There is at least one 315 light fully geared gaurdian boosting his kd by slaughtering lvl 10 guardians equiped with green weapons in every game. how does this help new players enter our community? Any iron banner/trials and ranked game modes should use both sbmm and connection base matchmaking to give everyone a fair shot at having a good experience. There is more than one side to this issue but first thing should be fix the connection issues then go on from there. Which I'm sure Bungie is working on and has been working on for weeks if not months.

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          • Signed!!! And whoever thought SBMM was a good idea should get fired or take a paycut

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          • Edited by Majora: 1/24/2016 3:31:31 PM
            Signed. Deej suck my balls [spoiler]#SavageReward ¿[/spoiler]

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          • Signed. I don't care about playing people of similar skill. But taking minutes to find a game and the connection being appalling is why I stopped playing. Just think about it. The chance of playing a top 1% player with no SBMM is 1 in 100. One player in every 8 games.

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