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Edited by KrishnaDaBeast: 1/26/2016 2:59:15 AM
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*ENDED* PETITION TO GET RID OF SBMM (SKILL BASED MATCH MAKING) THERE IS HOPE :D

This is killing PvP for me and a lot of players in the Destiny community. [b](TL;DR is down below)[/b] Skill based match making is matching people with "Equal" skill even if it's across continents and that just put lag on a whole new level. There should be ranked playlist and dedicated servers if they want to introduce skill-based matchmaking, so, for now, they should reintroduce connection based match making. Crucible is so sweaty, and it requires you to give the game 100% percent concentration if you want to win a match, which just ruins the fun in playing it in the first place. If you are in the higher ranks and want to use any other guns than the meta=RIP If you play with play with some of your friends who aren't as good=RIP Bungie the last two COD games tried skill based match making and have failed miserably (For example Advanced Warfare) [b][u] [i]TL; DR= Replace skill based matchmaking with connection based matchmaking before it's too late.[/u] [/i][/b] Bungie needs to listen to the community and go back to connection based matchmaking because of the Lag and crucible feeling more of a chore than it being fun. This is a casual game, and if you want it to be competitive then you got to introduce Private matches, dedicated servers and ranked playlist. [u][b]Guys please if you agree please sign and upvote this so people can see. Leave a comment about why you also hate SBMM. If you disagree with this post or some parts of this post please leave me a detailed comment explaining why. [/b][/u] If we want Destiny to be saved then we got to start somewhere important. Let your voices be heard! (Also, tell me if there are any grammatical mistakes or any spelling mistakes) [b]EDIT: Wow you guys are awesome! Keep signing and bumping so hopefully Bungie could see this and the many other posts out there.[/b] [b]EDIT: Please also do not forget to Upvote or click the like button on this post so more people can see this, thank you.[/b] [b] EDIT: 550+ Upvotes? Damn guys keep doing what you are doing. Bungie will have to see this. [/b] For the people that are saying "Oh now it's competitive, wow the horror." Then this is what I personally have to say to you [quote] Have you seen the crucible lately? It's latency issues are on a whole new level because of SBMM. A game like this with no dedicated servers should just stick to P2P connections which you clearly can't comprehend. I could play competitively when I want to feel like it. I organize scrims against competitive people all the time. But when I want to win matches.and have fun, I do not want to sweat and concentrate 100% for the whole watch just to have a chance at winning. It's funny if you actually think Destiny with no crucible balance, no dedicated servers, no ranked playlist, and no private matches could be competitive. [/quote] This is gold [quote] The pure idiocy is they've removed the fun of occasionally having an easier or harder match. It's sweaty all the time, especially if you improve. And further proof of the idiocy is this: where is the reward system that matches the SBMM? So you're going to give people more difficult matches, but reward them with a mote of light? Pull your head out of your ass Bungie,[/quote] By IronChalice For the "special people" that think SBMM is fine and you the top tier players or any players should be forced into laggy games so they don't play against people close to them. Please I challenge you to go read this great post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188142897/0/0 [u][i][b]EDIT: We have around 1600+ Signatures and Bumps. Let's hope Bungie sees this. Tweet this at them. Anything. Just keep Upvoting, bumping, and signing. If you disagree, please don't be ignorant because you post. Read what I and the people in this post are saying before speaking out. I would love to hear everyone's opinion but make it detailed. [/b][/i][/u] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVAYD-jWfY A video I found on Reddit. It's an SBMM Lagtage Best comment IMO [quote]I'm not against skilled based matchmaking. Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on. Halo 3, in my opinion, had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated. In order for this to work, though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time. I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same.[/quote] [u][b]By The Medic44[/b][/u] [i][u][b] EDIT: Keep on Upvoting, bumping, sharing, commenting, tweeting, anything. Bungo needs to see this clear flaw with PvP and how this alone could kill Destiny. I don't care about the content shortage if it means I can have fun in PvP but now I can't even do that. Bungie, you are killing your own game by not listening to us![/b][/u][/i] [i][u][b] EDIT: OMG 900+ Upvotes and no Bungie. BUNGO SAY SOMETHING. ANYTHING. GET RID OF SBMM. The majority wants it. Guys keep doing what you are doing. We need to get 1000 Upvotes so hopefully BUNGIE can see people don't want SBMM[/b][/u][/i] [quote] HUGE EDIT:Guys, an update about matchmaking! https://www.bungie.net/7_Matchmaking-Updates/en/News/News?aid=14278 Matchmaking will have more emphasis on connection starting WEDNESDAY. ONLY in Iron Banner. They will analyze that and then roll the matchmaking changes out to more Crucible playlists over time. We have yet to see if these changes will fix the issues, but this looks like a partial win with a full win incoming at an unspecified date. People, PLAY the EFF out if IB after Wednesday's update goes live. Let's let them know with our play time that we want the matchmaking to be CONNECTION based first, skill second.[/quote] [u][b]By Irivingjohn 1985[/b][/u] [i][b] 1000+ Signatures and Bungie finally said something. But it's a beta test, or it would feel like it so please PLAY THE EFF OUT OF IT AND TELL BUNGIE YOU LIKE IT. THIS PETITION HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SIGNING, BUMPING, AND COMMENTING. Tell Bungie you like the new matchmaking, if you like it, please. Someone else should make a petition asking for Bungie to keep the matchmaking if it's good. As for now I have done my job.[/b][/i] [b]WE -blam!-ING WON BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S GO[/b]

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  • Yes, damnit.

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  • BUMP

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  • 1-1.1 kd player. I'd much rather get wrecked by a skilled 2.0 player than by someone that teleports all over and doesn't take damage because of his red bar. Sbmm belongs in trials, not regular crucible.

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    • Yes

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    • Agree

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    • Signed x1000. Sbmm is digital socialism and ruins connections. Remove it or watch the game tank

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    • IronChalice Bungie should give you the "FATE OF ALL FOOLS" bigger badder brother, the "FATE IS WHAT YOU MAKE" exotic scout. Its got 17 lucky rounds in an 18 round mag that hits for 199 crit damage and teleports you 5 feet to the side every time you take a shot!!!!! I know it seems OP but dont worry, current PVP standards have more than prepared me for a 2-shot-ing teleporting enemy. Cant wait to get my ass kicked by you!

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    • Keep it. Nothing better than watching the leet crybabies boob that they can't maintain their high kdr playing against other high kdr players.

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      • IronChalice Bungie should give you the "FATE OF ALL FOOLS" bigger badder brother, the "FATE IS WHAT YOU MAKE" exotic scout. Its got 17 lucky rounds in an 18 round mag that hits for 199 crit damage and teleports you 5 feet to the side every time you take a shot!!!!! I know it seems OP but dont worry, current PVP standards have more than prepared me for a 2-shot-ing teleporting enemy. Cant wait to get my ass kicked by you!

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      • Signed (2x) For me and my awesome wife who is not even a player. Shes been supportive since day one of me getting my daily, sometimes hourly Destiny fix. Maybe these guys at Bungie need more understanding significant others so they can spend less time allowing said significant others to dictate game breaking changes and more time fixing said dictated game breaking changes lol. I have a love hate relationship with Destiny that is based around pleasing the reward centers in my brain with awesome awesome useless year 2 loot. Oh!! I got a (previously taken away and sold back to me) year 1 weapon!!! YESSSS!! I can be useful again!!

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      • Signed

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      • SIgned and dotted sir. BUNGIE YOUR PVP DEPENDS ON THIS.

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      • My connection with destiny already hasn't been great, but it's safe to say I've had 100 times more connection issues with destiny than I have with any other games. This was even before this sbmm, like TDB and such. I'm not sure if bungie thinks that the players are joking when they say Titans are blinking around and not taking damage (or any class for that matter), but it's an actual issue that I've had to play with, along with everyone else, just because bungie doesn't want lopsided matches? Please. Bungie, look at how treyarch responded to their community's response to sbmm. They actually saved their game from losing a huge portion of its player base. Bungie... What will you do for your player base? The fact is that we, as a community, as players of this game, are left in the dark. We don't know what's coming, and it's been that way for a while. Bungie has to tell us something, and it's not deej's fault because Bungie has to feed him words to say only so that he can make it sound good. Left in the dark, how can we trust Bungie either, knowing that they blatantly lied to every single player of their game just so that they wouldn't get the same reaction treyarch got when they announced sbmm? Well guardians... Sbmm is one problem among many, and I am all for getting rid of it. I used to side with Bungie in most debates/arguments on the forums but I really can't find any reasons to side with them this time. Signed, The Crucibully

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        • What about this, bungie made connection settings 5 years ago with halo reach. Just make this!

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          • Signed.

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          • Signed

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          • Signed because i cannot stand the connection issues.

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          • Signed, 2.2+ kd, came back to this non-sense

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          • It takes me 30 minutes to find a game because I'm in a top tier bracket. Makes me want to just not play at all. Took me a minute when this stupid SBMM wasn't in effect.

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            • My first petition I actually agree with. [spoiler]it's not hard to make it optional folks[/spoiler]

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              • Top 200 player here chiming in to say that SBMM is aids. Signed.

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                • Signed.

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                • Edited by drvankmen: 1/24/2016 10:11:54 PM
                  Signed. Death to sbmm!!!!

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                • DeeJ said in another petition to end rift IB that bungie isn't going to end it because they don't want to. I doubt they'll give a fûck about connection/skill based matchmaking, since this has been a problem since the beginning

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                  • Edited by m0nk0fwar: 1/24/2016 11:13:19 PM
                    I sign this wholeheartedly. I can completely agree with you on the difficulty of using non-meta weapons. I see myself as a fairly skilled player, not the best but far from the worst. Personally, I love Hawkmoon. I know how to use it, as in good weapon combos and strategies for it. It's impossible to use in this SBMM, even from me. Last Word, Doctrine of Passing and Thorn just destroy it. The way I see it: I'd prefer someone to be invincible due to their skill rather than them being invincible due to their connection. This game was never meant to be overly competitive in regards to the Crucible. Iron Banner and Trials of Osiris exist for the sake of competition. What Bungie should do is revert normal Crucible to CBMM and create a SBMM 6v6, 3v3 and Free-For-All playlists for the people who really want to have competitive games that have weight to their performance. It shouldn't be very difficult to get an ELO score for players, as third party sites, such as destinytracker.com, already has ELO scores. Bungie just needs to track them and give players ranks based on the ELO scores. This would fix the Crucible's main matchmaking and make it far more enjoyable, even without the weapons having any balance.

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                    • Signed

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