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Edited by KrishnaDaBeast: 1/26/2016 2:59:15 AM
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*ENDED* PETITION TO GET RID OF SBMM (SKILL BASED MATCH MAKING) THERE IS HOPE :D

This is killing PvP for me and a lot of players in the Destiny community. [b](TL;DR is down below)[/b] Skill based match making is matching people with "Equal" skill even if it's across continents and that just put lag on a whole new level. There should be ranked playlist and dedicated servers if they want to introduce skill-based matchmaking, so, for now, they should reintroduce connection based match making. Crucible is so sweaty, and it requires you to give the game 100% percent concentration if you want to win a match, which just ruins the fun in playing it in the first place. If you are in the higher ranks and want to use any other guns than the meta=RIP If you play with play with some of your friends who aren't as good=RIP Bungie the last two COD games tried skill based match making and have failed miserably (For example Advanced Warfare) [b][u] [i]TL; DR= Replace skill based matchmaking with connection based matchmaking before it's too late.[/u] [/i][/b] Bungie needs to listen to the community and go back to connection based matchmaking because of the Lag and crucible feeling more of a chore than it being fun. This is a casual game, and if you want it to be competitive then you got to introduce Private matches, dedicated servers and ranked playlist. [u][b]Guys please if you agree please sign and upvote this so people can see. Leave a comment about why you also hate SBMM. If you disagree with this post or some parts of this post please leave me a detailed comment explaining why. [/b][/u] If we want Destiny to be saved then we got to start somewhere important. Let your voices be heard! (Also, tell me if there are any grammatical mistakes or any spelling mistakes) [b]EDIT: Wow you guys are awesome! Keep signing and bumping so hopefully Bungie could see this and the many other posts out there.[/b] [b]EDIT: Please also do not forget to Upvote or click the like button on this post so more people can see this, thank you.[/b] [b] EDIT: 550+ Upvotes? Damn guys keep doing what you are doing. Bungie will have to see this. [/b] For the people that are saying "Oh now it's competitive, wow the horror." Then this is what I personally have to say to you [quote] Have you seen the crucible lately? It's latency issues are on a whole new level because of SBMM. A game like this with no dedicated servers should just stick to P2P connections which you clearly can't comprehend. I could play competitively when I want to feel like it. I organize scrims against competitive people all the time. But when I want to win matches.and have fun, I do not want to sweat and concentrate 100% for the whole watch just to have a chance at winning. It's funny if you actually think Destiny with no crucible balance, no dedicated servers, no ranked playlist, and no private matches could be competitive. [/quote] This is gold [quote] The pure idiocy is they've removed the fun of occasionally having an easier or harder match. It's sweaty all the time, especially if you improve. And further proof of the idiocy is this: where is the reward system that matches the SBMM? So you're going to give people more difficult matches, but reward them with a mote of light? Pull your head out of your ass Bungie,[/quote] By IronChalice For the "special people" that think SBMM is fine and you the top tier players or any players should be forced into laggy games so they don't play against people close to them. Please I challenge you to go read this great post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188142897/0/0 [u][i][b]EDIT: We have around 1600+ Signatures and Bumps. Let's hope Bungie sees this. Tweet this at them. Anything. Just keep Upvoting, bumping, and signing. If you disagree, please don't be ignorant because you post. Read what I and the people in this post are saying before speaking out. I would love to hear everyone's opinion but make it detailed. [/b][/i][/u] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVAYD-jWfY A video I found on Reddit. It's an SBMM Lagtage Best comment IMO [quote]I'm not against skilled based matchmaking. Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on. Halo 3, in my opinion, had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated. In order for this to work, though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time. I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same.[/quote] [u][b]By The Medic44[/b][/u] [i][u][b] EDIT: Keep on Upvoting, bumping, sharing, commenting, tweeting, anything. Bungo needs to see this clear flaw with PvP and how this alone could kill Destiny. I don't care about the content shortage if it means I can have fun in PvP but now I can't even do that. Bungie, you are killing your own game by not listening to us![/b][/u][/i] [i][u][b] EDIT: OMG 900+ Upvotes and no Bungie. BUNGO SAY SOMETHING. ANYTHING. GET RID OF SBMM. The majority wants it. Guys keep doing what you are doing. We need to get 1000 Upvotes so hopefully BUNGIE can see people don't want SBMM[/b][/u][/i] [quote] HUGE EDIT:Guys, an update about matchmaking! https://www.bungie.net/7_Matchmaking-Updates/en/News/News?aid=14278 Matchmaking will have more emphasis on connection starting WEDNESDAY. ONLY in Iron Banner. They will analyze that and then roll the matchmaking changes out to more Crucible playlists over time. We have yet to see if these changes will fix the issues, but this looks like a partial win with a full win incoming at an unspecified date. People, PLAY the EFF out if IB after Wednesday's update goes live. Let's let them know with our play time that we want the matchmaking to be CONNECTION based first, skill second.[/quote] [u][b]By Irivingjohn 1985[/b][/u] [i][b] 1000+ Signatures and Bungie finally said something. But it's a beta test, or it would feel like it so please PLAY THE EFF OUT OF IT AND TELL BUNGIE YOU LIKE IT. THIS PETITION HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SIGNING, BUMPING, AND COMMENTING. Tell Bungie you like the new matchmaking, if you like it, please. Someone else should make a petition asking for Bungie to keep the matchmaking if it's good. As for now I have done my job.[/b][/i] [b]WE -blam!-ING WON BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S GO[/b]

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  • Agreed. I have been enjoying pvp a lot less now it has been very frustrating. The only thing that is still fun is trials and that is because you have a team and they don't use the SBMM in trials.

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  • Signed!!! Sbmm blows. Last night i decided to get some pretty good friends and run trials for fun. Trying to grind some elo for some friends so we would win 6 or 7 matches and switch cards. We hit a 12 win streak and get some pretty good opponents. Before even landing in the match we see red bars(not seen in any match prior to this) naturally we get a little worried but oh well. First round its a bit laggy with hit detection but we pull the win out pretty easily. Next round we get 2 guys down so its 3 on 1. Last guy goes for a res and gets sniped, game over........or so we thought. The round end timer hits 2 and it then says enemy revives. No one is near the orbs because were going for special. So the guy that got rezed revives the other downed teamate and also grabs the 3rd teamate. So its back to 3v3 and we are all flustered wondering wtf is going on. We end up loosing that round very soon after the enemies all got revived. And the rest of the matches only got worse. We lost 5 to 1. Shooting kids and them not dieing. Rezes pooping up after enemies were all dead. And so on. Out of curiosity i looked at the enemies profiles and game clips. All 3 had game clips with words and narration in french. I am in florida and my two partners in south carolina. Now why the hell would we even be on the same pool to choose teams as people overseas?? It ruins the game puts whoever has host at an advantage its turns of so many players desire to be competitive or play this game at all. Fix your shit bungie. Your loosing players daily and soon you will have none.

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    • Edited by Asyliark: 1/25/2016 12:12:11 AM
      Bungie saw the Petition to change Rift in IB and Deej said it WAS gonna happen and they werent going to change it, it will be the same for this, they may work around it but it will stay the same. No petition will change that, they know people are gonna still play nontheless. But Signed anyways.

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    • Signed. will leave fingerprint and sign it with my blood in a letter to bungie if that's what it takes.

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      • Edited by JOKERMAN: 1/25/2016 1:26:07 AM
        Bungie doesn't care. You are all cows being milked of your money. They do not care about you or your meaningless petitions. They screw you time and time again. Then they will say "with all of the awesome feedback we get, we are going to do this instead of what you asked for! Also we're sorry about that last fuk up we had so here we made some more emotes for you to buy! You're welcome!" Tell them with your wallet not your meaningless post.

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      • Is there any way to match with both skill and connection that would seem fair to be

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        • I just wish it was solely connection based. I'd be happy.

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        • Edited by Hawpy: 1/25/2016 1:12:01 AM
          SBMM has sucked out whatever life there was left in the Crucible. Pre-TTK, when everyone used Thorn or TLW, it was a great feeling to punish the lesser players, once you had discerned who was good and who wasn't. Now, when everyone [i]still[/i] uses TLW, for a player like me, there's no point even trying when I know that I will lose almost every fair engagement because I don't want to conform to the meta. What if I want to mess around using NLB and a Fusion Rifle? SBMM decides that I should go against 3/6 tryhards that I wouldn't be winning against no matter what I used, NLB just makes it more humiliating for me and significantly easier for them. What happens on the off-chance that you improve? You'll get put against even better players that will most likely crush your hopes of further improvement.

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        • Signed. And adding a couple clips that prove SBMM is horrible with its latency issues. https://youtu.be/dZBf6N3Zpak https://youtu.be/f1cGefmnSCU

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