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Edited by KrishnaDaBeast: 1/26/2016 2:59:15 AM
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*ENDED* PETITION TO GET RID OF SBMM (SKILL BASED MATCH MAKING) THERE IS HOPE :D

This is killing PvP for me and a lot of players in the Destiny community. [b](TL;DR is down below)[/b] Skill based match making is matching people with "Equal" skill even if it's across continents and that just put lag on a whole new level. There should be ranked playlist and dedicated servers if they want to introduce skill-based matchmaking, so, for now, they should reintroduce connection based match making. Crucible is so sweaty, and it requires you to give the game 100% percent concentration if you want to win a match, which just ruins the fun in playing it in the first place. If you are in the higher ranks and want to use any other guns than the meta=RIP If you play with play with some of your friends who aren't as good=RIP Bungie the last two COD games tried skill based match making and have failed miserably (For example Advanced Warfare) [b][u] [i]TL; DR= Replace skill based matchmaking with connection based matchmaking before it's too late.[/u] [/i][/b] Bungie needs to listen to the community and go back to connection based matchmaking because of the Lag and crucible feeling more of a chore than it being fun. This is a casual game, and if you want it to be competitive then you got to introduce Private matches, dedicated servers and ranked playlist. [u][b]Guys please if you agree please sign and upvote this so people can see. Leave a comment about why you also hate SBMM. If you disagree with this post or some parts of this post please leave me a detailed comment explaining why. [/b][/u] If we want Destiny to be saved then we got to start somewhere important. Let your voices be heard! (Also, tell me if there are any grammatical mistakes or any spelling mistakes) [b]EDIT: Wow you guys are awesome! Keep signing and bumping so hopefully Bungie could see this and the many other posts out there.[/b] [b]EDIT: Please also do not forget to Upvote or click the like button on this post so more people can see this, thank you.[/b] [b] EDIT: 550+ Upvotes? Damn guys keep doing what you are doing. Bungie will have to see this. [/b] For the people that are saying "Oh now it's competitive, wow the horror." Then this is what I personally have to say to you [quote] Have you seen the crucible lately? It's latency issues are on a whole new level because of SBMM. A game like this with no dedicated servers should just stick to P2P connections which you clearly can't comprehend. I could play competitively when I want to feel like it. I organize scrims against competitive people all the time. But when I want to win matches.and have fun, I do not want to sweat and concentrate 100% for the whole watch just to have a chance at winning. It's funny if you actually think Destiny with no crucible balance, no dedicated servers, no ranked playlist, and no private matches could be competitive. [/quote] This is gold [quote] The pure idiocy is they've removed the fun of occasionally having an easier or harder match. It's sweaty all the time, especially if you improve. And further proof of the idiocy is this: where is the reward system that matches the SBMM? So you're going to give people more difficult matches, but reward them with a mote of light? Pull your head out of your ass Bungie,[/quote] By IronChalice For the "special people" that think SBMM is fine and you the top tier players or any players should be forced into laggy games so they don't play against people close to them. Please I challenge you to go read this great post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188142897/0/0 [u][i][b]EDIT: We have around 1600+ Signatures and Bumps. Let's hope Bungie sees this. Tweet this at them. Anything. Just keep Upvoting, bumping, and signing. If you disagree, please don't be ignorant because you post. Read what I and the people in this post are saying before speaking out. I would love to hear everyone's opinion but make it detailed. [/b][/i][/u] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVAYD-jWfY A video I found on Reddit. It's an SBMM Lagtage Best comment IMO [quote]I'm not against skilled based matchmaking. Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on. Halo 3, in my opinion, had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated. In order for this to work, though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time. I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same.[/quote] [u][b]By The Medic44[/b][/u] [i][u][b] EDIT: Keep on Upvoting, bumping, sharing, commenting, tweeting, anything. Bungo needs to see this clear flaw with PvP and how this alone could kill Destiny. I don't care about the content shortage if it means I can have fun in PvP but now I can't even do that. Bungie, you are killing your own game by not listening to us![/b][/u][/i] [i][u][b] EDIT: OMG 900+ Upvotes and no Bungie. BUNGO SAY SOMETHING. ANYTHING. GET RID OF SBMM. The majority wants it. Guys keep doing what you are doing. We need to get 1000 Upvotes so hopefully BUNGIE can see people don't want SBMM[/b][/u][/i] [quote] HUGE EDIT:Guys, an update about matchmaking! https://www.bungie.net/7_Matchmaking-Updates/en/News/News?aid=14278 Matchmaking will have more emphasis on connection starting WEDNESDAY. ONLY in Iron Banner. They will analyze that and then roll the matchmaking changes out to more Crucible playlists over time. We have yet to see if these changes will fix the issues, but this looks like a partial win with a full win incoming at an unspecified date. People, PLAY the EFF out if IB after Wednesday's update goes live. Let's let them know with our play time that we want the matchmaking to be CONNECTION based first, skill second.[/quote] [u][b]By Irivingjohn 1985[/b][/u] [i][b] 1000+ Signatures and Bungie finally said something. But it's a beta test, or it would feel like it so please PLAY THE EFF OUT OF IT AND TELL BUNGIE YOU LIKE IT. THIS PETITION HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SIGNING, BUMPING, AND COMMENTING. Tell Bungie you like the new matchmaking, if you like it, please. Someone else should make a petition asking for Bungie to keep the matchmaking if it's good. As for now I have done my job.[/b][/i] [b]WE -blam!-ING WON BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S GO[/b]

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  • Signed, BUT: Trials and IB matches need to be skill based matchmaking so we need dedicated servers exclusively for Trials and Iron Banner as well. But with the majority of Bungie's people working on Destiny 2, I doubt this will happen...

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  • It's such an easy win for them right now. It would get so many people back onside if they announced cbmm.

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  • Signed. It's utter crap and makes IB unbearable at times

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  • Signed. I am so tired of red bars, that I constantly get laggy and/or kicked, EVEN THOUGH I ALWAYS HAVE A GREEN BAR!!! I should have a green bar, but don't anymore. Bungie needs to focus more on the real issues (lag) than a couple mercy rules here and there because of skill imbalance.

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  • Edited by Xenolotl: 1/25/2016 8:45:49 AM
    Signed. I bought the Ghost Edition. The Year One content was worth it, I'll say that. I was with one of the first 10 teams to beat the VoG and tweet it out to Bungie. I'm sad to say that I have not felt the old drive to play Destiny in over 3 months, with the exception of a couple recent scattered attempts to get back in and the SRL event. Unless things drastically change, I wont be preordering Destiny 2, let alone at all get a collector's edition version. They've betrayed our trust and lied to us twice (micro transactions, which they outright said would not happen in any capacity, and now this SBMM debacle). I wont say I wont get it, but you can count me out for the first couple to a few weeks, and my money will easily sooner go to other games and their DLC than this. I remember and will never forget when they blatantly said, "Crucible was never meant to be competitive, but something fun you could retreat to after going on a bunch of strikes, patrols, and raiding. A place to relax after coming back from the wild." I know Bungie is capable of better. We all do, we've all seen Halo, we all closely watched with strained eyes to catch every pre-launch look at this game. Those of us that made it to the Moon in the beta understand the mystery and danger that the Destiny Universe embodied early on. Those of us that gazed upon hours worth of story in the Grimoire know that there's a rich universe behind the curtain of a game we're presented with now. So, for now, until we see things fixed, systems reworked, and progression to this massive undertaking made; Per Audacia Ad Astra, Guardians. May it be sooner than later.

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    • Bump, iḿ from South Africa and I´ve seen the small community we have decrease in number, firstly for the SBMM and lack of content. My previous clan stopped playing all together, its frustrating going into daily salvage and coming up against Brazilians, UAE and Australian mixed lobby. How do you enjoy a game that clearly feel its on the decline. This game I love so much is becoming hard to defend. BUNGIE GIVE US A REASON TO CONTINUE LOVE YOUR GAME

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    • Honestly, we don't need SBMM. If you want competitive game, you go in trial, where matchmaking is based on wins on your cards. That's good and make sense. Now, if you need to train, find out which load is good, want, perfect your game, you need the old crucible matchmaking (based on nice connection as they did for a too short time). Why? - you need to figure out your load out. that load out should work aginst players of your level but also try and compensate your weaknesses against players that are better than you. But you'll never get matchmade against them with SBMM... - this defeats the whole purpose of going in fireteam with friends. How is SBMM working then? it either makes it too easy for some players or too hard for others. The reason to put in SBMM is to get even games according to bungie, but that doesn't work anymore as soon as you team up with some gamer(s) from a different level than you. - lag: it impacts the game too much now, and makes games just too unbearable too often. + I'm not good at crucible, but I had more fun with connection based matchmaking...

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      • Wouldn't have a issue with Sbmm if they made it second behind connection. It should search for players within a set skill range who have a good latency to you then move down the skill ranks until it matches players with a strong connection, not go by skill even if you are on opposite ends of the globe.

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        • Signed, it's just not working out..time for a divorce..we went to consulting (forums) and it's just not going to work. Time to get rid of it. Hurting the PVP, last thing left on Destiny

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        • Signed! Pvp with my friends is no more, they are better at pvp as they play it a lot more so we get matched with the sweatys. Solo crucible and banner is not as fun thanks bungie

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