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Edited by KrishnaDaBeast: 1/26/2016 2:59:15 AM
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*ENDED* PETITION TO GET RID OF SBMM (SKILL BASED MATCH MAKING) THERE IS HOPE :D

This is killing PvP for me and a lot of players in the Destiny community. [b](TL;DR is down below)[/b] Skill based match making is matching people with "Equal" skill even if it's across continents and that just put lag on a whole new level. There should be ranked playlist and dedicated servers if they want to introduce skill-based matchmaking, so, for now, they should reintroduce connection based match making. Crucible is so sweaty, and it requires you to give the game 100% percent concentration if you want to win a match, which just ruins the fun in playing it in the first place. If you are in the higher ranks and want to use any other guns than the meta=RIP If you play with play with some of your friends who aren't as good=RIP Bungie the last two COD games tried skill based match making and have failed miserably (For example Advanced Warfare) [b][u] [i]TL; DR= Replace skill based matchmaking with connection based matchmaking before it's too late.[/u] [/i][/b] Bungie needs to listen to the community and go back to connection based matchmaking because of the Lag and crucible feeling more of a chore than it being fun. This is a casual game, and if you want it to be competitive then you got to introduce Private matches, dedicated servers and ranked playlist. [u][b]Guys please if you agree please sign and upvote this so people can see. Leave a comment about why you also hate SBMM. If you disagree with this post or some parts of this post please leave me a detailed comment explaining why. [/b][/u] If we want Destiny to be saved then we got to start somewhere important. Let your voices be heard! (Also, tell me if there are any grammatical mistakes or any spelling mistakes) [b]EDIT: Wow you guys are awesome! Keep signing and bumping so hopefully Bungie could see this and the many other posts out there.[/b] [b]EDIT: Please also do not forget to Upvote or click the like button on this post so more people can see this, thank you.[/b] [b] EDIT: 550+ Upvotes? Damn guys keep doing what you are doing. Bungie will have to see this. [/b] For the people that are saying "Oh now it's competitive, wow the horror." Then this is what I personally have to say to you [quote] Have you seen the crucible lately? It's latency issues are on a whole new level because of SBMM. A game like this with no dedicated servers should just stick to P2P connections which you clearly can't comprehend. I could play competitively when I want to feel like it. I organize scrims against competitive people all the time. But when I want to win matches.and have fun, I do not want to sweat and concentrate 100% for the whole watch just to have a chance at winning. It's funny if you actually think Destiny with no crucible balance, no dedicated servers, no ranked playlist, and no private matches could be competitive. [/quote] This is gold [quote] The pure idiocy is they've removed the fun of occasionally having an easier or harder match. It's sweaty all the time, especially if you improve. And further proof of the idiocy is this: where is the reward system that matches the SBMM? So you're going to give people more difficult matches, but reward them with a mote of light? Pull your head out of your ass Bungie,[/quote] By IronChalice For the "special people" that think SBMM is fine and you the top tier players or any players should be forced into laggy games so they don't play against people close to them. Please I challenge you to go read this great post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/188142897/0/0 [u][i][b]EDIT: We have around 1600+ Signatures and Bumps. Let's hope Bungie sees this. Tweet this at them. Anything. Just keep Upvoting, bumping, and signing. If you disagree, please don't be ignorant because you post. Read what I and the people in this post are saying before speaking out. I would love to hear everyone's opinion but make it detailed. [/b][/i][/u] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVAYD-jWfY A video I found on Reddit. It's an SBMM Lagtage Best comment IMO [quote]I'm not against skilled based matchmaking. Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on. Halo 3, in my opinion, had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated. In order for this to work, though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time. I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same.[/quote] [u][b]By The Medic44[/b][/u] [i][u][b] EDIT: Keep on Upvoting, bumping, sharing, commenting, tweeting, anything. Bungo needs to see this clear flaw with PvP and how this alone could kill Destiny. I don't care about the content shortage if it means I can have fun in PvP but now I can't even do that. Bungie, you are killing your own game by not listening to us![/b][/u][/i] [i][u][b] EDIT: OMG 900+ Upvotes and no Bungie. BUNGO SAY SOMETHING. ANYTHING. GET RID OF SBMM. The majority wants it. Guys keep doing what you are doing. We need to get 1000 Upvotes so hopefully BUNGIE can see people don't want SBMM[/b][/u][/i] [quote] HUGE EDIT:Guys, an update about matchmaking! https://www.bungie.net/7_Matchmaking-Updates/en/News/News?aid=14278 Matchmaking will have more emphasis on connection starting WEDNESDAY. ONLY in Iron Banner. They will analyze that and then roll the matchmaking changes out to more Crucible playlists over time. We have yet to see if these changes will fix the issues, but this looks like a partial win with a full win incoming at an unspecified date. People, PLAY the EFF out if IB after Wednesday's update goes live. Let's let them know with our play time that we want the matchmaking to be CONNECTION based first, skill second.[/quote] [u][b]By Irivingjohn 1985[/b][/u] [i][b] 1000+ Signatures and Bungie finally said something. But it's a beta test, or it would feel like it so please PLAY THE EFF OUT OF IT AND TELL BUNGIE YOU LIKE IT. THIS PETITION HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR SIGNING, BUMPING, AND COMMENTING. Tell Bungie you like the new matchmaking, if you like it, please. Someone else should make a petition asking for Bungie to keep the matchmaking if it's good. As for now I have done my job.[/b][/i] [b]WE -blam!-ING WON BOYS AND GIRLS. LET'S GO[/b]

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  • I for one am for SBMM. I always try my hardest and I enjoy the challenge (I wish they had an actual ranking system that I could see though...). That said, connection should be #1 top priority for matchmaking, period. Having such tremendous issues with lag on a constant basis because we are getting matched with people in places I've never heard of is unacceptable. It makes the "try hards" not want to bother trying hard because we end up getting -blam!-ed by lag. This was a major screw up by Bungie and absolutely must get changed now. I personally will not be playing Destiny again until it does get changed, except for a trials run once a week with my buddies. Oh well, at least this leaves me time to finally play MGSV.

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  • no (salt salt salt). I dont really mind it, I was starting to get bored of crucible anyway :(

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  • Signed I also want to know why does this company continue to work behind our back and then lie directly to our faces ? We needed the raw data!!, screw you right back in the face. This data is pointless within a p2p connection and no matter what will be flawed depending on connection of each gamer to one another. How can a supposed veteran company continually smear egg in their face with these stupid random acts of ignorance? This is pathetic and I'm embarrassed I've stuck up for this game for so long

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  • 666 likes on this thread O.O

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    • "I'm not against skilled based matchmaking. Especially if it was clear what skill was rated on. Halo 3 in my opinion had the best skilled based matchmaking, I'm all for it if it can be replicated. In order for this to work though, casual needs to be separated from ranked play. Casual players don't want to play hard, and ranked players don't want to be sweaty all the time. I chose when I want to go hard, and I believe the majority of the player base does the same." THIS.

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      • Signed, its ruining crucible

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      • Don't remove it as it's nice to have challenges once and a while but I believe I speak for anyone who signed when I say we want an option, split the crucible into ranked with the same game modes and casual, drops are the same, only thing that's different is sbmm is in ranked of course and yeah you get what I'm saying. And for the love of god fix your terrible servers, make a server based game that's still p2p isn't a wonderful idea, the entirety of destiny is proof of that

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      • Not happening... deej already told us he doesn't listen to petitions.

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      • Signed, Bungie please remove SBMM and return to connection matchmaking. I am sick and tired of the lag. PVP is not fun anymore when shots don't count because of the lag.

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      • Edited by samwenchester: 1/25/2016 1:25:01 PM
        If you don't want to match and play sweat every match, just make sure to have a few trashy players on your fire team. Other wise no one cares how much you want to beat scrub lords sometimes. Maybe those scrub lords Dont want to play hard all the time but can't because they keep getting matched against sweat. Here's the thing about the sweats. It doesn't matter what time of day it is they always sweat, every match no matter what. The only reason yall have a problem with sbmm is because your kd won't excessively high anymore because you won't have anyone to farm for easy kills to make up for those matches where you got dominated.

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        • Edited by Cyclist HxP: 1/25/2016 1:39:37 PM
          Signed, I hate to be a test subject. I know is good to try new things but I think this experiments should be done on the Alpha and Beta test and if is done we should know about it.

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        • Edited by ImTooHungover: 1/25/2016 1:31:12 PM
          "As always, more than petitions, the way you spend your time in the game is the best way to communicate to us what you like and don't like." https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/187961323/0/0 Apparently petitions don't mean jack shit. Bungie would prefer you to keep playing the game in its broken state because its not like Bungie to misinterpet the "data." Signed and happily stopped playing.

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          • I don't pay good money for my internet to be subjected to this crap. I finally gave up yesterday and won't be back until it's resolved. Still love the game and wish nothing but the best for it but right now I won't let myself get frustrated over things out of my control.

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            • I like a ranked system just not whatever this is. Signed

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