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1/22/2016 12:25:03 AM
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How are you supposed to counter a fist of havoc?

It's nothing more than a panic button. A goddamn panic button. It requires literally ZERO skill to kill people with it. You simply press a button and everyone around you dies in less than a second. Once the animation has been initiated, the only way to stop it is if you have a super, three rocket launchers, or a dozen shotguns already aimed at the guy. No other super activates that fast, so unless you have one already active, and are aiming at them, you've got pretty much no freaking chance of stopping it. What the hell are you supposed to do? Stay away from all titans at all times just in case one might have it ready? Killing a Titan before he has the chance to press the button doesn't work, as he'll simply have it ready the next time he respawns. It's simply not feasible to kill a Titan after the button's been pressed unless he's already severely wounded. Why the hell is it that whenever this is brought up on the forums, everyone jumps to its defense? The striker subclass is supposed to be unstoppable, I get it. What I don't like is how no other class has a super that's that goddamn effective. No other class has a super that, once activated, guarantees that everyone around you will die unless they either happen to have a super capable of killing you already active, or they have a fist of havoc that they can also use to survive the explosion. I know that these forums has a severe allergic reaction to the word "nerf", but I really think that Fist of Panic deserves it. At least make it so that in PVP it requires a second to charge before detonating, making their window of vulnerability slightly larger. "Press a button to instantly kill everyone around you." is OP in the crucible even amongst supers. It simply can't be countered by anything because once it's activated, you've got less than a second to react, which is not enough time to do anything capable of stopping it. Either give us a more time to counter it, or give the other classes a super each that is equally unstoppable. [b]To everyone who will inevitably side with the super and insult me in the comments below, I genuinely want to know how you can justify this. Every super has a bane, a weakness, except this one. GG has no armor and can easily be shut down, WoD can be countered by simply staying away from the bubble or blowing it up with another super, Stormcaller is easily noticable and thus gives players a chance to react and flee from it. Fist of Havoc has no weakness. If you're in range when it's activated, you will die.. If you disagree, I challenge you to explain a reliable method of not dying when you're in range of an incoming panic fist.[/b] Seriously, the only ways a FoH could actually NOT kill people is if they somehow belly flopped off the map, chose to waste it when there were no enemies around, or if they chose to belly flop at someone who already had GG aimed at them ready to fire. Also if someone reacted by activating their own belly flop so the armor would protect them, but that's assuming they're a titan and also have a ready-to-activate FoH. All of the above can be avoided with even the slightest bit of competence and should not be considered "weaknesses" of the super.

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  • Are you being serious? I've shut down titans mid super with an auto rifle, sniper, shotguns, and even a storm fist. I've also been shut down multiple times mid super. If they're above you, learn how to use your situational awareness and lead the target. Titans running unstoppable with arc based armor and max armor builds are going to be hard to kill. That's what armor is for.

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  • You could just evolve and adapt. Instead, you want to nerf more abilities that will also affect PvE. Don't pretend your nerf won't affect PvE, these nerfs always do. It is a super ability with an extremely limited range. Seriously, toughen up, Chief.

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  • Move backwards and get space between them , half the time they miss , use blade dancer and dash away then dash back at the Titan and kill him after he slams xD

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    • Oh please be quiet. It's a super with limited range. Please nerf yourself

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    • I understand same experience with nova bombs but one time I killed a foh with a shotgun and a fully charged storm fist stopped the animation felt pretty good

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    • You're gonna die sometimes. Especially from supers. Fist of havoc requires close quarters to get kills. If someone uses it to get one kill, then they wasted the chance to use it for more. Nova bomb is similar except it's ranged. Take your lumps and get over it.

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    • Btw if you cant keep the 10ft distance between you and the titan.... You are a very, very, very low tier "player" (if i could even call some1 as bad as you a "player"l

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    • Titans were designed to have the cheapest supers in the game. FOH is completely a panic button. Its a class designed to make less skilled players feel they can compete. All the top tier players will acknowledge this.

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      • Stupid post.

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        • Edited by Royal_Jatt_209: 1/26/2016 7:50:04 PM
          1 shot with thron and he died, they can be shot dead if low health noob

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        • Hahaha well that's what you get for complaining so much about HoS. All i run is; Defender (suppresion nades to stop any super) Striker (hahaha I'll FoH you anytime)

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        • Bahahahahahahahahahaha

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        • Their weakness is space. Simply run or just eat it. If he kills only 1 it's a wasted super. It's supposed to be a panic button.

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        • Some people's are dumb mother-blam!-ers

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        • Stop spamming this shit it's been 4 days straight. I've been monitoring you, you little shit. 4 straight days or longer off the same post. -blam!-ing stop before people ban you

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        • Just keep calm en Let the fist of panic kill you till u rage quit then u quit this game because the fist is hard to counter.

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        • Other supers are more spread out and have the potential to do more damage, even nova bomb can be thrown or split to increase AoE, the point of striker is to guarantee at least 1 kill, you'll rarely get more than that with it, few counters but few kills

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        • -blam!-ing pray! That's what I do.

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          Titans are meant to be tanks. They either [i]defend[/i] their team with the bubble, or [i]beat the living hell[/i] out of you with hammers and fists of havoc. Warlocks, have two high-damaging sublcasses, in voidwalker and stormcaller, both can [i][u]easily[/u][/u][/i] steamrole a whole team. Then theres the sunsinger, which can res from the grave, and screw anyone over who is ill prepared Hunters are the real threat, cause they are a lot harder to counter than a fist of havoc, since thats only one use, but all three hunter's supers have the ablility to last longer, and since they can all one shot anything under the mass of an oryx sized elephant....they are more of a threat...

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        • You just have to bait out fist of havocs. If you see a Titan running towards you with a yellow box around his level, GTFO of there. The main way to counter a planned way is to see they have their super before they reach you. As for a fist of panic, you're screwed.

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        • First step is to not complain.

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        • ^^

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        • #TheyHateUsCuzTheyAintUs

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        • Edited by kellygreen45: 1/25/2016 10:14:24 PM
          1. Don't be there. 2. Be a Defender Titan and perfectly time the deployment of your WoD to suppress it. 3. Be a Nightstalker Hunter and shut it down that way. 4. If 1-3 aren't options, take satisfaction that if you are a victim of Fist of Panic....you took a potential multi-kill off the board....and its a net-plus for you team. Even if its a death on your personal stats. So I see it as something of a moral victory if I pressure a Striker Titan hard enough to provoke him to waste his super on a single kill of someone who isn't using their super.

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        • It's always for one kill. That's how it's always been. One fist, one kill. And that's it. Sure you may get lucky and get a multi kill but you can do that with other stuff easier than a FOH. [spoiler]And yes I do agree it is a panic button.[/spoiler]

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        • It's usually for like 1 kill or a super killer. Just jump or move to the side. Fist of havoc is the last thing this game needs to worry about

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