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1/22/2016 12:25:03 AM
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How are you supposed to counter a fist of havoc?

It's nothing more than a panic button. A goddamn panic button. It requires literally ZERO skill to kill people with it. You simply press a button and everyone around you dies in less than a second. Once the animation has been initiated, the only way to stop it is if you have a super, three rocket launchers, or a dozen shotguns already aimed at the guy. No other super activates that fast, so unless you have one already active, and are aiming at them, you've got pretty much no freaking chance of stopping it. What the hell are you supposed to do? Stay away from all titans at all times just in case one might have it ready? Killing a Titan before he has the chance to press the button doesn't work, as he'll simply have it ready the next time he respawns. It's simply not feasible to kill a Titan after the button's been pressed unless he's already severely wounded. Why the hell is it that whenever this is brought up on the forums, everyone jumps to its defense? The striker subclass is supposed to be unstoppable, I get it. What I don't like is how no other class has a super that's that goddamn effective. No other class has a super that, once activated, guarantees that everyone around you will die unless they either happen to have a super capable of killing you already active, or they have a fist of havoc that they can also use to survive the explosion. I know that these forums has a severe allergic reaction to the word "nerf", but I really think that Fist of Panic deserves it. At least make it so that in PVP it requires a second to charge before detonating, making their window of vulnerability slightly larger. "Press a button to instantly kill everyone around you." is OP in the crucible even amongst supers. It simply can't be countered by anything because once it's activated, you've got less than a second to react, which is not enough time to do anything capable of stopping it. Either give us a more time to counter it, or give the other classes a super each that is equally unstoppable. [b]To everyone who will inevitably side with the super and insult me in the comments below, I genuinely want to know how you can justify this. Every super has a bane, a weakness, except this one. GG has no armor and can easily be shut down, WoD can be countered by simply staying away from the bubble or blowing it up with another super, Stormcaller is easily noticable and thus gives players a chance to react and flee from it. Fist of Havoc has no weakness. If you're in range when it's activated, you will die.. If you disagree, I challenge you to explain a reliable method of not dying when you're in range of an incoming panic fist.[/b] Seriously, the only ways a FoH could actually NOT kill people is if they somehow belly flopped off the map, chose to waste it when there were no enemies around, or if they chose to belly flop at someone who already had GG aimed at them ready to fire. Also if someone reacted by activating their own belly flop so the armor would protect them, but that's assuming they're a titan and also have a ready-to-activate FoH. All of the above can be avoided with even the slightest bit of competence and should not be considered "weaknesses" of the super.

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    You wanna know how to counter it? Don't get within range.

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    • [quote]To everyone who will inevitably side with the super and insult me in the comments below, I genuinely want to know how you can justify this. Every super has a bane, a weakness, except this one. GG has no armor and can easily be shut down, WoD can be countered by simply staying away from the bubble or blowing it up with another super, Stormcaller is easily noticable and thus gives players a chance to react and flee from it. Fist of Havoc has no weakness. If you're in range when it's activated, you will die.. If you disagree, I challenge you to explain a reliable method of not dying when you're in range of an incoming panic fist.[/quote] Most, not even some, literally most of this comment is a fallacy. GG can one shot you, meaning for you to take it out you would have to get the first 3 - 4 shots in, get a sniper headshot, or get close enough for a shotgun. Good luck with that, it might be possible, that doesnt make it a good idea. Stormcaller is faster than a sprinting guardian with a ridiculous range and chain abilities . Good luck running away. WoD is a super magnet, that is true. However the super is supposed the be PvE centered anyway so... So tell me, How do you counter a teleporting blade dancer? or A nightstalker? or even a self rez warlock? How about a void bomb warlock? Its not the only super that is nigh impossible to stop. I feel like i say this once a week on this forum. Just because it killed you, doesnt make it OP

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      • wheres supreme butthurt?

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      • Bro, there's not really supposed to be any counter to a super. What's the counter to a nova bomb or blade dancer? Or hammer of sol? It's a super, it's supposed to be nearly unstoppable.

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      • So you are afraid of dying one time every few minutes? That is the saddest thing I have ever heard and I will pray for you lol.

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      • Yes FoH is a panic super most of time. But guess what other subclasses panic outsupers too? Nightstalker idk how many times ive seen one of those panic out of shot or a voidwalker panic out a nova. Shit ive even see BD pop that crap out of fear of death.

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      • You need a nap.

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      • Time your blink or shadestep. Thise can dodge ALL supers if times right.

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      • Pray. That's all you can do.

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      • All you huntards do is complain and get things nerfed.

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        You don't counter the FoH. Dodge it, or kill them before they get to you.

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      • Be out of range and wait till he/ she lands. Then pull trigger

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      • Foh is grossly underpowered compared to other supers. First you have to rush in while getting shot to use it. Unless you have unstoppable it's a good chance you will die before touching the ground due to it having the longest activation time (especially in air) in the game. The range is insignificant and enemies can survive if they are on the edge with minimal damage. The Titan does a super cool pose after which guarantees his death from survivors or those outside his range. Most people just jump out the way or fall to a lower platform because it gives you all the time in the world to escape that small radius. And on average it will net 1-2 kills unless you are lucky enough to find a bigger group. So if they managed to pull off a super to win a 1v1 I say it's throwing a bone to the underpowered Titan.

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      • I'm laughing that you think this is a problem. It has been nicknamed Fist of Panic for a reason

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      • Look there is are only 3 reasons a titan runs at you 1 they are going to fist you 2 shoulder charge 3 he is a sliding shotgun scrub The counter is to kill him as he runs at you Beware the running titan

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        • But you really can't flee a Stormcaller

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        • It takes more skill than a blade dancer. -shrugs-

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        • I like how I finally get to see some constructive criticism on these forums. Side note, I do agree with what was stated within the post.

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        • I'm not sure if you are supposed to unless you get lucky

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        • Hahahaha this took me back to September 10th , 2014.. when the forums asked the Same question.

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        • Well a buddy of mine discovered that with the arc resistance armor if a Titan doesn't snag you spot on you won't die. Just adjust man your taking it way too serious

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        • That's like asking how you counter a GG when he sees you out in the open. Each super has a domain where it basically guarantee a kill. So SHUT UP AND MAN UP!! OR WOMAN UP if you're a woman.

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        • Leave Titans alone were tired of salty ass hunters and warlocks wanting Titans nerfed

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        • Didn't read the whole thing, but I assure you, this conversation is about a year and 4 months been there done that.

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        • Not get close??? Learn its radius and bait him??? No super takes skill. Go home.

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        • Fist of havoc activates=your dead! It's a super get over it

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