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Edited by Raikeran: 1/4/2016 1:28:48 AM
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What If Defenders Could Fire From Inside Their Bubbles?

We've always had to exit the safety of our bubbles to shoot our enemies, or wait for them to try to kill us from inside. But what if we didn't have to, how would that affect the game? Edit: Suggestions say that there should be an Exotic armor/weapon that has this ability exclusively. Nice. Also considerable: Switch that with being unseen from outside the bubble. It'd be harder to kill the Defender if you try to rush them.

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  • A while back I made a post about a potential exotic armor piece which enabled defenders to shoot through their bubbles. Was told by the majority that it would be super op, which I didn't agree with, but whatever. :P

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  • It would be really cool if you could just run around with the bubble and shoot out of it. Teammates could shoot out of it and receive buffs to ALL cooldowns. Enemies couldn't fire into it. If you look at the bubble you get suppressed... Upon leaving the bubble you become invisible, teammates as well, until you die. You also get unlimited self rezing capabilities for 30 seconds after leaving the bubble.... Did I miss anything. Oh yeah the perk where anyone that stepped into the bubble gains blink till they die.. But you gotta give up the invis for that. Hahaha this is what most people's ideas for new gear or updating classes sounds like. Then they throw in one little balance statement to make it not seem totally op lol.

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  • People would see the bubble and instantly walk away until it expired, the Titans would hate it.

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    • I would suggest : [u]Heavy Lift Machine[/u] Exotic Gauntlets " By pushing L1 and R1 while in Ward of Dawn allow the titan to absorb the Ward and replace it in a different point of the map " Moving with the bubble would be third person like in oryx's fight, you can't shoot nor double jump.

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      • As a new perk sure. Replace armor if light since no one uses that shit. Decrease ward of dawn durability from enemy fire, allows friendly fire to pass through ward of dawn.

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      • As long as only the one who castes it could shoot through, I'd be ok with that. Anyone in the bubble being to shoot through? That's a recipe for disaster.

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      • It'd be cool if you could at least throw grenades out of it. And being in the bubble could recharge grenades faster or something

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        • I don't ever want this. I don't want them to nerf or do anything to my favorite class.

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          • I say ok as long as we have a perk for our weapons or a weapon that can shoot the bubble and shatter it.

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            • Edited by Heil hydr8: 1/4/2016 12:59:36 PM
              Wait wait. Imagine defenders can pop a bubble and shoot out of it instead of WoL. When they pop its there for the entire time, 30 or 40 seconds of bubbleness, even if the defender dies. To balance out, anyone who is inside the bubble can take advantage of the perk. So if you kill the defender you now have a base to call your own. Really brings out team support

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              • If you ask me, they should have switched the rank 2 and 3 gunsmiths around. Made Fabian Strategy perks on the Shotgun, and then Fabian Strategy would be able to shoot through the inside of a bubble. (But not the outside to the inside because then Saint-14s would just get wrecked.)

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              • Just like that you have a deploy-able time's vengeance, everywhere.

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              • Edited by Crying Hail: 1/4/2016 2:31:35 PM
                If this was cause from a perk or exotic there must also be a down side. For example the damage you shoot through the bubble will damage the bubble would be an example so you have the bubble for a shorter period of time while it is active and prevention of some perks like weapons of light because it would make the Titan the most overly powered class otherwise

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              • WoL+1000yd+this... Lord be merciful

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              • That be kind of unfair. There would definitely need to be a significant damage reduction. Weapons of light would not be able to be applied while within the bubble for [b]PVP[/b]. PVE? Sure.

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              • it will no longer be called a titan, it shall be known as a frost [spoiler]warframe[/spoiler]

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              • What about an exotic that lets you use two smaller bubbles instead of one big one?

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                • Sparky, you haven't lived until you've one shot yourself with the Sleeper in a bubble because you misjudged whether the barrel was out or not. Pros and cons.

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                • Then I wouldn't have blew myself up with a rocket thinking I was just outside the bubble!

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                • I could see bungie creating an exotic that allows this but significantly reduces the time the bubble last. I'd also love to see an exotic that lets Defenders make the bubble mobile.

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                • thats would be freaking awsome. But I guess it would be nerfed within ours.

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                • How about more interesting things? Still play up the support class by all bullets fired out of the bubble [i]at a teammate[/i] grants them small amounts of health (or shield)? Bullets can pass through the bubble but at .5 damage of original value and damages the bubble the more you shoot out of until broken? Can instead fire guardian sized bubbles at targets instead of a normal ward of dawn to render their guns useless until it wears off (aka theyd just be shooting at the inner walls of the bubble. Bubble would move with them etc)? But just straight shooting out of bubble would be a bit op, especially when you get a 6 man defender team up. Also dont get me started on all the pve cheese haha.

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                • Yes if the shots that leave the bubble are nerfed like 50%. There's still an advantage but to use it efficiently you would to leave the bubble to finish them off(unless their dumb). Could be a cool exotic perk.

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                  • Only if weapons of light doesn't work while inside, Ward of Dawn has a small health pool (2-3 rockets worth of health) before popping and only the Titan can shoot through it.

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                  • Defender is already pretty badass now! I've been pleased with it

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                  • It might be(is) OP In pvp. Weapons if light, a high impact sniper and you're set. Just place your bubble in a corner so people have to come directly at you but you just body shot them.

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