Why are you targeting hunters? The few stormcallers complaints that I have seen have been from Titans who are saying that if HoS was nerfed storm trance should be too because it's almost as strong. Hunters are not the source of all complaints, and all of year 1 Titans and warlocks complained wbout Hunters and hated on them because they had better pvp subclasses. Stop targeting Hunters, Titans and Warlocks complain just as much (and historically more) at different times, all dependent on who has something to complain about, not on charachter traits that people who play a particular charachter class in a video game have. Titans and Warlocks shouldn't be able to get away with complaining about Hunters for a year and hating on them just because they had better supers, and then turn around and say Hunters are whiney or Hunters are the problem. Everybody whines, everybody gets salty. The notion that any one class is a problem or is whiney is absurd, you can't attribute charachter traits to people who prefer a particular video game class. Ps storm trance probably isn't going to get nerfed, there's really no reason for it to be and like I said there haven't been many complaints. If they fixed arc blade hit detection/range, improved HoS tracking and blast radius pvp would be balanced as far as supers go in my opinion (although ward of dawn is still meh).

Stormtrance... No significant amount of armor... No significant amount of range... No significant amount of speed... It lasts a while. Has high dps, not even instakill. Shotty to the face, snipe from long range, don't suck at aiming, simple common supercounter attacks are viable methods of neutralization. My [i]expert opinion[/i], no nerf needed. Landfall has very little range. The ionic blink is needed for dramatic increase in speed. If anything it needs a buff to the perk that makes it channel further. Literally no one uses it. Instead of making one thing overpowered, make something else capable of matching it except in a different way. Make it to where instead of everyone using landfall, make the other perks more useful.

Subclasses in order from most balanced to least balanced since the start of TTK (pre-year2nerfs): 1. Stormtrance 2. Sunsinger 3. [u]Nova Bomb these 3 are really close[/u] 4. Arcblade 5. Fist of Havoc 6. Ward of Dawn 7. [u]Golden Gun these 4 are almost tied[/u] 8. Hammer of Sol 9. Shadow Shot (because of infinite shots)

Warlocks storm caller super and bolt melee are OP as shit. Nerf soon. Wouldn't need a nerf If they left hunters and Titans alone. It was more even when everything was OP now hammers are absolute garbage and hunters suck as always

Im just a little ticked off about the warlocks melee l range. Way to distant for a melee attack

The only thing wrong with warlocks is how long storm trance lasts.. Ridiculous

It's not a fact that you need to be above someone for landfall to kill. I've been on the receiving end of 100-0 landfall from warlocks 5~ft away.

I don't care if stormcaller gets nerfed. The only class I really run anyway is voidwalker.

Man, this is the most balanced subclasses have been in a while now. In a game of control, a Titan can use any subclass and be effective, and hunter can use any subclass and be effective (but they need to fix arcblade), and a warlock can use any subclass and be effective (although a sunsinger isn't really built for that game mode). In trials, sure, a Titan bubble isn't going to do much, but that just isn't meant to be. Every other subclass can wreck shop in trials.

Two things: 1. Not all hunters a whiny bitches, a lot of Titan and warlocks are whiners 2. The community doesn't decide what gets nerfed, bungie looks at the stats and how things are working out and decides for themselves

They did just nerf golden gun, less time to use the shots. Symbiote gives a fourth but you gotta be quick.

Storm caller doesn't even have a sticky grenade. I mean about the only thing it has going for it is a long super where you can still get killed pretty easy. Sure golden gun is strong but they are so easy to kill. I probably kill more golden supers then any other super, or trade kills at least. I main a lock too.

You guys ever read the notes of the unity clade warlock helmet? "Hunters can be difficult to lead, I suggest you hint to them that we are from a future, where they have all died."

Because storm caller is a no skill super, the only ones easier to get kills with are the two true panic supers, fist of panic and panic bomb when used improperly as panics. Personally I think it needs adjusting on some level with its kill potential, the armor is perfect. They can die when you team fire them down(for some reason, scrubs couldn't make this concept apply when they saw a sunbreaker) and if they don't use it to cross the battlefield, but as a room clear technique on the objective, they can cause mass devastation. What do I think needs to be done?! Idk, I'm not a sandbox designer, but I just get burnt by it as I cannot stand how little skill it takes to hold a trigger with a ridiculous chain capability which then makes it impossible to scatter and if you happen to run away in time, they're faster than you(a keen scout agility hunter). The only way I escape their speed and range is exploiting my Titan skate, and a cheese shouldn't be the only defense in a 1v1. My ability to see the glowing name, memory of what element his melee or grenade was when he killed me, and thought process of running away since I'm caught out alone should justify my living... Edit: And golden gun has a received some nerfing, as people say it's best super based exotic is almost unusable. Blade dancer is broken(though I've never seen these issues they say exists). If you're going to call for a nerf, attack nightsalker with shade step, two grenades, op corner striking grenades, graviton and keep scout allowing you to essentially see through walls, and a 3 shot super which if you miss, is a destructive tool that can still screw the enemy with tether. And longer lasting grenades. But then they change the entire perk load out and they're orb gods in pve.

It's true... We learned the motto "if a Huntard can't beat it, then it's OP" And sadly, Bungie ALWAYS listens to the whining huntards, they always get their way. I would prepare for a warlock nerf if I were you.