His point is still completely valid and you are looking for sad excuses to prove him wrong. It may not have been trials specifically BUT it was iron banner. We all knew vex and suros were versatile already, but the level advantage drove everyone to the ground when combatting a suros or at the time the very rare vex mytholast. No Computer generated enemy in destiny has ever complained about being killed too fast by the vex or suros. its been crucible players and trials amplifies it