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Edited by Lost Sols: 12/15/2015 6:02:42 AM
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Petition to remove Trials of Osiris from the game (not #satire)

Let me start by saying that I have absolutely nothing against the game mode itself other than its lack of matchmaking, but unfortunately the players who participate in Trials continually destroy the game for everyone else. I know it's a radical suggestion to remove an entire game type because of player behavior, but I'm not sure anyone is going to want to keep playing the shell of a game that Trials players leave the rest of us. The problem is and always will be nerfs. Since Trials inception, it has easily been the single biggest contributor to nerf posts on these forums. - Thorn was essentially erased from this game because of Trials. - Hand Cannons were AR'd because of Trials. - Pulse Rifles just got boned [i]because of Trials[/i]. - Sunbreakers were probably doomed anyway, but the loudest cries for nerfs... Trials. And as bad as all those were, now I'm seeing posts crying that Trials matches aren't fair because of MIDA and Truth. Seriously go find a Chinese hell to burn in if you're going to cry about MIDA and Truth. The point of this game was supposed to be becoming more powerful and finding more powerful and awesome weapons. MIDA has [i]always[/i] been a great counter to any "God weapon" in this game, not because it's OP, but because it's so well balanced and versatile from mid to long range. But rather than find counters like MIDA, rather than grind for your own "God weapons" if you feel you can't compete, rather than get fracking good, we've systematically destroyed every weapon and class that was ever fun in this game. Go shoot a goddamn Fusion Rifle. They're complete garbage. Collateral damage from the constant dicking over of weapons, all to "balance" one stupid PvP mode that almost no one plays. Someone post those pathetic numbers they put up a month or so ago about how few players actually compete in ToO and the infinitesimal number that have actually gone to the Lighthouse. So we're going to have all our weapons ruined in not only PvP, but PvE as well so probably less than 5% of the player base don't cry? I just don't get your thought process here Bungie. I can tell you this though, there's not one reasonable or remotely valid reason to nerf Truth, MIDA or Scouts and if that unbelievably stupid thought crosses Jon Wisnewski's mind then it's time to pull the plug on Trials. And to anyone who enjoys Trials, I'm sorry but there would be no one to blame but yourselves. Better you lose your game mode than be allowed to keep dragging the rest of this game down with your incessant crying for nerfs. EDIT: Just to clarify because I'm being accused of having put up nerf posts [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Topics/0/Default/None/%23realbalanceisnotbalanced]#realbalanceisnotbalanced[/url]

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  • The problem with this post is that by suggesting that removing trials will solve the nerf problem, you're essentially saying that before May, nerfs weren't a problem. Which is untrue. The auto rifle nerf that spawned the blink/ shotgun and Thorn/Last Word Meta happened in the first quarter of 2015, before trials was even thought. Update 1.1.1 The original fusion rifle nerf that brought them down came before trials. Most of the balancing in this game occured before trials. Sunbreakers weren't nerfed because of trials. Sunbreakers weren't shit in trials. Mayhem and public play is where the Sunbreaker shined because the general population didn't know how to deal with them. Pulses weren't nerfed because of trials, Everyone used pulses in every playlist. Thorn wasn't nerfed because of trials, it was just as played in the banner. And hand cannons fell with Thorn and the other exotics. No one was using other hand cannons during that meta because the exotics were outshining them. Well the Fulcrum was good one but only if perfectly rolled. I also find it problematic that you lump the folks who enjoy trials in with the players crying for nerfs. Trust me, if you're crying for a nerf, you're probably not having fun. If you were having fun, you wouldn't be asking for a change. If they remove trials, Banner will retake its throne as the place to use the Meta, so when that happens should Banner be removed too? Nerfing has nothing to do with what gametypes are in place and who they cater to, but it has everything to do with what type of players ask for nerfs. It's the players who refuse to learn from their losses, and those players will continue to exist whether trials is in the game or not. This game has way too many weapons in it for them to perfectly balance it. It's never going to balanced. And even if they do get it right by some miracle, there's still going to be the vocal minority saying something is over powered, and Bungie will inevitably rebalance the game again. That's the nature of the beast. Once you come to accept that, you'll do what I've been doing since the game came out, riding the waves of rebalances and learning how to play different Metas. There's nothing wrong with that and it makes you a more adaptive player, in both PvE and PvP. And once you figure that out, you'll find it much easier to play outside the meta and continue to succeed. This isn't like you. You're smarter than this Sols.

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