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11/29/2015 7:51:56 PM
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Didn't watch but I did some of my own numbers.
[spoiler]Lyudmila-D will still 2 burst 😈[/spoiler]
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And will still be garbage
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[quote]And will still be a monster[/quote] Fixed
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Lol, it's never been a monster. The only good Hakke weapons are conspiracy theory and stillpiercer.
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You must not be good with pulse rifles then
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Aye what do I know about pulse rifles. I've only got 9800 kills with them.
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That isn't very many
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Nope but it's nearly 4 times what you have
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And yet I do better than you with it
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Do you though? Youve got a fraction of the kills I have. You're comparing an average KD of not even 20k kills to one of more than 60k in a game that has no private lobbies or ranking system. Not to mention you're a shotgun whore and the few times you've actually picked up a sniper rifle you've clearly final rounded with it. So nah mate. Coming out with shit like that is only going to make me laugh.
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not caring about hte epeen flexing but a properly rolled lyudmilla-D ahd hte highest overdamage threshold of all the pulse rifles before the nerf, (240 damage if all hare headshots, allowing you to completly miss one shot or get 2 body shots and still 2 burst kill) granted it pretty much needs counterbalance and something like headseeker would be nice (mine has army of one) but yes its a good pulse, good range if im rememberinhg right too.
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I have the one that has counterbalance and hand laid stock. It still isn't good. It takes forever to fire all the shots and you can't have too many of them miss. PDX/Hawksaw kills just as fast except you can strafe in between bursts and it's more accurate and versatile.
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Edited by Absinthesize: 11/30/2015 1:13:26 AMIt's OK if you can't use it well. It's harder to use then a hawk saw and it is more versatile. But math wise lyudmilia-d kills far faster. In fact both high and med impact pulse kill faster. Hawksaw and it's archetype are the easiest to use and fastest to ads but slowest ttk when factoring best ttk Edit ; elaborating that hawksaw is indeed easier to use
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The TTKS aren't that different at all. In the time it takes to fire the 2 bursts of 4 from lyudmula you can get 3 bursts off with hawksaw/PDX all the while being able to strafe more with the higher ROF one because if you strafe too much with lyudmula you start losing headshots. Not to mention the higher ROF ones handle much faster as well. I wouldn't say the high ROF ones are easier to use, in my opinion slower ROF are easier as you don't need to work as hard with them.
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I'm on mobile right now. When I get home I'll give you the math break down. Long story short for now. Fast rof pulses have the worst ttk of the archetypes. But are more forgiving on missed shots due to said higher fire rate. These are facts. I don't debate opinions. If you feel it's easier fine. Go keep feeling whatever you want. But don't use your feelings to debate facts.
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Edited by Elitespear: 11/30/2015 1:40:11 AMI remember seeing a helpful spreadsheet showing TTKs and mid ROF had the lowest TTKs. That was however based on a target that wasn't max armour so mid ROF still 2 burst with the right perks. I work with the assumption that my target has max armour. In which case mid ROF still takes 3 bursts, same as high ROF. I covered the reasons why I don't rate lyudmula. I wished it would be as good as the messenger for the longest time but it just isn't and that was after me using a multitude of different gunsmith ones. Which is probably a good thing because a gun as good as the messenger would not be a good thing in year 2 as it would have no competition.
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Actually, it's pretty damn nice with the right rolls.
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[quote]Didn't watch but I did some of my own numbers. [spoiler]Lyudmila-D will still 2 burst [/spoiler][/quote] That Lyudmila-D is a great weapon. Mine's full auto.
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Yes it is. Mine is 316 now and only because I haven't gotten a higher primary to put into it yet haha
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its the year 2 messenger with a 4th shot (about the only pulse rifle ive seen with the same impact rating as the messenger) :) ( i accidentally deleted it when i got :(
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A fellow Lyudmila junkie, I assume?
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Yea. One of my new PvP faves, since it can replace Red Death and free up my exotic slot.
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Edited by Weeeaal: 11/29/2015 8:13:50 PMHehe yeah. According to the math... Base body shot down from 21 to 19. Base head shot down from 31 to 28. An even 4/4 split takes down low armor guardians. 5 headshots, 3 body shots? Assuming max armor gives you 196hp as some research suggests, this will be lethal to all guardians. Only 7 headshots will save you from having to land all 8 rounds from the 2 bursts. But Lyudmila with high stability rolls should be able to accomplish 2-bursting on at least a somewhat regular basis. What are the rolls on yours btw? Mine has Army of One (meh), Hand Laid and Feeding Frenzy (I love the reload perk) with SC Holo(+ target acq) or SD Thermal (highlights enemies in sights).
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Nice! I was worried not a fast enough rate of fire if it wasn't a two burst.
