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Edited by Auver: 11/5/2015 6:52:26 PM
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What I don't understand about christianity

This will probably be a long post. 1.) [b][u]Predestination[/u][/b] "Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,…” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1:5‬ ‭(KJV‬‬). So is this verse saying that you don't have a choice about becoming a christian? God just decides for you just because he thinks it's good? There are also verses that state that God predestinates people to hell (I can't find them now), so what is the purpose of trying to be a Christian if you are predestined to hell? I just don't understand how a God that loves everyone could predestine people to hell, not to mention, “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God..." ‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:28‬ ‭(KJV‬‬) 2.) [b][u]God's Wrath[/u][/b] “And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.” Revelation‬ ‭14:19-20‬ ‭(KJV‬‬) Six hundred furlongs = roughly 800 miles. Yep sounds like a merciful and loving God to me! I'm sorry if I sound like I'm cherry picking verses, I'm not trying to. These are the two main things I don't understand about christianity.

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  • I'm not a theologian, but God knows all choices we make, because we made them. Therefore, he knows whether we will be going to heaven or to hell. Of course the obvious thing to say is "But we don't have free will then, do we?". No, we have free will. It's just that God knows what we are going to choose. He didn't make those choices for us, we made them. Trying to understand such a seeming contradiction with our brand of logic will get us nowhere. It's something you just have to accept on faith. As for God's wrath, I believe neo782 explained it quite well. God's wrath is directed at sin. There are a lot of verses in the bible that are downright confusing. It's why there is a whole career dedicated to theology. So many factors have to be taken into account: translation, time period, culture of that period, etc.

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