I'd be shocked if you got more kills than me using that pile of carp. I haven't seen anyone do it yet. You'll put more damage on a boss, no doubt, but I'll get the kills. And to say "it's fine" is awful. This is supposed to be the most amazing gun in year two, and it's only "fine?" Damn, how bad is year two if the best gun is just "fine?" Bungie's idiotic idea to not let any guns shine is killing this game. I chased down this piece of carp, and it absolutely does not shine. Why would I chase down anymore guns when everything that I keep finding is junk? The Red Death is still a beast. It's awesome. The day they get rid of year one guns completely is the day I'm done with Destiny. Bungie is destroying this game with their awful guns and lack of content.