[quote]But that's like saying that just because someone has lied before, everyone else is probably lying. No. Only a few select people are lying. In this instance only one dev team was lying.[/quote] No what I said was just because they said they never will doesn't mean they won't. It means they are capable of lying even if they say they won't. Meaning just because they [i]said[/i] they won't be pay to win doesn't mean they [i]wont[/i]. [quote]Yes, Bungie could be lying but when has Bungie lied before? What is their track record that proves they could be lying[/quote] Here you go "In the months to come, your quest to become more powerful will have more avenues that lead to satisfaction. The last thing we wanted was for you to look at your favorite gun or helmet and decide that it had become obsolete. Since the reveal, we’ve read a lot of ideas for how this could have been done better. Your feedback is clear: The time you have invested in your stuff should be respected." - DeeJ