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10/28/2015 5:21:58 PM
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Holiday Festival Controversy

I was on the forums today and saw two posts specifically about holiday festivals in the Tower. There were two posts that generated quite a bit of controversy, one that called for a Christmas Festival and one that called for a Ramadan Festival. After reading these posts I couldn't believe how hypocritical and backwards some people on the forums are. Most accept a Christmas festival but are absolutely offended by the mere thought of a Ramadan Festival. Have we really fallen so far? Posting inappropriate phrases to bash the Islamic faith and making jokes about terrorism. It really is a shame. Don't give me the cop out excuses of that Christmas is more commercialized and makes up the majority, those explanations are complete crap, not everyone wants to celebrate a holiday with Christian roots. I for one don't even think that Destiny has any of the faiths we have presently. They praise the Traveler as their Savior and the Speaker is sort of the Pope to the people in a sense. I don't Christmas exists. I do, however, think that having a seasonal festival of some sort would be great TL;DR [i]What justifiable reason can you give me for such a huge difference in opinion?[/i] PS- for those that agree what do you think would be a good idea for a festival during the holiday season?

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  • Because any religion that condones throwing stones at a woman until she dies because she "showed her face" to another man other than her husband or cheated or had sex out of wedlock is not ok in my book

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  • Avoid religion, politics and sexual orientation discussions. You'll upset someone. Game is suppose to be fun.

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  • If any future "festivals" are nothing more than marketing Silver purchases then Bunglevi$ion can shove them. With all the complaints about the "grind" I'm amazed that anyone actually bothered participating in this "Festival of the Lost (players)". It is bad enough the RNG grind continues. With this idiotic festival, you continue to grind except what you are grinding for has absolutely NO gameplay value at all. A bunch of no defense value helmets clogging up my inventory? No thanks.

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  • To paraphrase Ron Swanson: "The whole thing is a scam. Christmas and birthdays were invented by Hallmark to sell cards."

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  • Muslims are instructed to kill all infidels. 80%+ of the world's population are infidels. I am all for freedom of religion but I won't support anything that calls for the mass eradication of the human race. So Christmas and No Ramadan for me. Stop trying to kill or convert and I will happily change my opinions.

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    • Just do a happy holidays festival. Boom, problem solved.

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      • Can't we just say -blam!- Islam and ignore the goat -blam!-ers?

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        • Fück Muslims get out of our country!

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          • All religion is false anyways so just get over it.

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            • Im not against any of it. They should add all the different religions into one or in different parts of the tower.

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              • just call it the winter festival

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              • Christmas is celebrated by the majority of people Ramadan is celebrated by just Islam. Bungie is stationed in America which almost everyone celebrates Christmas in some way. Christmas is a very commercialized holiday and isn't just religion anymore. There's going to be snow and present boxes not mangers and holy people so it's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be

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              • [quote]What justifiable reason can you give me for such a huge difference in opinion?[/quote] Hypocrisy. Christians are the biggest hypocrites ever. No, not all of them, just most of them. Especially if they're from the American south.

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                • My advise would be not to take bait so seriously as to make a post about others failed attempts at what this board calls "satire". These people aren't really offended, if they were, and it's truly as offensive as they say it is to them, the forums are not the place to get your voice heard about such discontents. People truly offended and with a true case of offensive material on their hands would take this higher up. Not make click bait posts. So once again. Stop. These offended posts are fake attempts at attention because it's easy to bait in people who will defend such concepts.

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                • Welcome to 2015 the land of made up religions where half of them likely don't even exist.

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                • Christmas is less a religious holiday than a marketing scheme nowadays. Myself and many others who would not consider themselves remotely Christian celebrate Christmas, it's not about religion for the majority anymore. I'm just fine with that.

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                • As a tech novice, I don't know the amount of work involved in setting these events up, but I personally would rather see Bungie concentrate on adding new content (strikes, raids, ect) than spending time creating in game holiday events.

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                  • Just make a "winter festival"

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                  • Edited by Grimace221: 10/29/2015 2:49:08 PM
                    The problem with Ramadan festival, and the person who posted it, is that the OP of that one did so just to create controversy, and drama. Because if he (or anyone for that matter) knew anything, they would know that it would be a sin for those of the Muslim faith to celebrate Ramadan in such a manner. In reality, the biggest people to be offended about a Ramadan festival, should actually in fact be Muslims. It's cute how people want to rush in and be the PC hero, without actually knowing that it would be a huge insult to them, to have this in the game. Also remember that most of the people making terrorist jokes are probably kids whose parents never taught them respect. So that is where most of the people have the issues. Furthermore, most people want to have a holiday themed festival, and yes because Christmas is the more commercialized holiday, and very largely practiced, when games have events like this, it is usually Christmas themed, without actually being Christmas. Bottom line? Everybody needs to unbunch their panties, and stop looking for things that offend them.

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                    • FESTIVUS! Bring on the Feats of Strength!

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                      • The thing is this game is created in America by an American company. Xmas is about giving and sharing. Ramadan is about starving yourself are you gonna have the cryptarch hand out green engrams from yellows, don't think the theme will sit well with the game. Especially seeing as how the tower is based in Russia also Christian.

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                      • This festival isn't for any holiday except to "remember fallen guardians"

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                        • Are people that dumb or do they just like to complain? Bungie will and should have a holiday theme. A tree, wreath, snow, santa, snowmen, elves, and reindeer have absolutely nothing to do with religion. Absolutely nothing. Again absolutely nothing. It's a shame that anything offends everyone. Quit being complainers. Truthfully honest this world would be a better place without those people. If you complain or cry about Santa and a reindeer you need serious mental help.

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                          • "Winter festival" Everything else can stfu. Also the lights are there to "keep away the dark". Seems very destiny oriented.... Again...everything else can -blam!- off.

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                          • I don't get why people can't just acknowledge that Destiny will more than likely make up a fake holiday(like they did for Halloween) that just happens to give gifts(which nearly EVERY winter holiday does) Why does everyone immediately jump to Christmas and religious debates? It's gonna be a made up holiday that only exists in this game that happens to give gifts during the winter months. I don't remember anyone complaining that we got a free legendary emgram [b][i][u]specifically[/u][/i][/b] for Christmas last year.

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                          • Religion and Politics have no place on video game forums.

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