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10/21/2015 10:09:51 AM
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I think it's stupid, but the part I hate more is
"Hey, let's wait until a random day with no warning whatsoever to release this quest for this exotic everyone has been searching for.
People actually thought there were secrets and steps they needed to complete to unlock stages, and they searched, and they did well, but ultimately it's just been down to some guy at bungie pushing the button that says "k they can have it now".
It's not a good idea, it's bad design, it's takes out a lot of the fun. Can you imagine if praedyths ghost triggered the NTtE quest immediately? How much more exciting would it have been discovering all of it for the first time? Took out all the momentum, the excitement of a new discovery faded and by the time it finally came around yesterday it was just a case of "oh, so that's what that was. Neat."
That's not the way to release exotics. It just makes obtaining them tedious.
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You want secrets and puzzles? Stay off the forums, and stay away from youtube. Stay away from any method of seeing other people discovering things. Go figure everything out alone. Then! you will have what you are asking for. Otherwise, we are all riding the coat tails of those who are kind enough to release guides to these things mere hours after they go live. Which if you ask me, ruins the surprise and hunting factor.
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That's not the point of my post at all. There was literally nothing special about any of the roads to these exotics. I do want secrets and puzzles, which is exactly why I thought sleeper simulant was totally ridiculous. After so much searching, it was just there. For no reason. No puzzle. Just there. Invalidate all the attempts at finding the next step by just revealing "we just made you wait all along!" They had a chance to make NTtE exciting upon the paradox daily being explored, things found, opening up new paths, but they dead ended us again. People were hyped up for all of about an hour til it was like "you hand it in and nothing happens". I like puzzles, the hunt is exciting right up until the "unnecessary dead end" point, and then people are trying to work out the next stage of a puzzle that doesn't exist. That puzzle SHOULD exist. If they're a big enough deal to be classified on the site, there should at least be some substance to the road obtaining them.
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The problem with releasing everything on launch day, is that there will be someone(s) who will find everything within the first week or two. They will release a video about it, and within the first month, everyone will have uncovered all the secrets. Then there would be nothing to do, and people would stop playing. It happens pretty often in many games. Skyrim did a pretty good job at hiding things, and people were still finding new things for longer than a month. But that is an exception to a pretty common situation.
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Edited by Jackzaa: 10/21/2015 2:12:27 PMIt's not even that that's the issue for me tbh, although I do personally think gamers should be allowed to play at their own pace and not have their progression dictated by a button push at bungie HQ. It's just being up front about it. Don't give us step 1 on a quest chain and then hide step 2 behind a time gate, without making it clear that it's a time gate. It's saying "you were on the right path, you got to the right place, followed all the right steps, but no, nothing has happened. You can go fruitlessly look elsewhere until we say so." They even went as far as to tease people with FAKE clues for SS, when they all knew there was no way we could obtain it. How backwards is that?! Encouraging people to work to uncover things that aren't there. I personally couldn't care less if everyone found all the secrets day one, but bungie should have put more effort into keeping them secret in a fair way. All the old halo Easter eggs are pretty solid proof Bungie knows how to keep things secret, they're applying none of that here, though.
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I can agree with that. For instance, sleeper simulant. They could have given a hint that what they were looking for wasnt the gun, but a neat easter egg instead. Atleast to set the expectations more correctly. This way people wouldn't have been so disappointed when they found out there was no prize to be won by uncovering the basketball court.
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Edited by FixtusBlack: 10/21/2015 1:29:48 PMIf there is a guy out there playing that way, he is going to be [b]so[/b] pissed when he finds out this stuff is only in the game for a day or two at a time.
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Don't bother trying to get sleeper simulant then.....
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Yep and it's a completely random day and you could only complete the quest that day So people who work or busy that f*ck them
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But it comes back every week or two. You aren't completely left out. You can get it next time it comes around.
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No like for me im a kid so I could pretty much get any weapon if it comes out any day But for older people that work etc sucks for them They have to wait like an extra week or two to have a chance if they're not busy to get it
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Smashed it out after work, than did kings fall and a nightfall b4 bed
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Took 10min to do the quest. If you can't make the time for that then oh well. You obviously didn't need it.
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I like that they drop randomly gives reason to check out what's going on everyday and stay active, but I don't like how they are only one day, a lot of people may have work or homework and it would suck to miss a gun just because you had to do something that ONE day. I think the quest should get to a certain point that you have to do in one day, but when you reach that point you can do the rest and get the gun WHENEVER you want.
