LOL! DUDE! You are just unbelievable. How does any of that even pertain to Power Creep? Thorn? It started off just fine but people complained that it was "under powered" so Bungie buffed it and created a monster, then they had to tweak it again. [quote]Thorn: |NERFED| Also addressed with substantial nerf, leaving its DOT ability substantially re-tooled, which makes it a more standard 3-shot-kill, and prevents players from relying solely on poison damage. Still great, but no longer the ubiquitous choice for PvP that it was before.[/quote] TLW? It gets wrecked all the time. Also, Attila already addressed it as well. [quote]TLW: |NERFED| Specifically addressed with a SEVERE nerf to stability, range, and accuracy in 2.0, it's still a capable weapon in skilled hands, but not at all on the level it was before.[/quote] Felwinter? Not nearly as big a deal as everyone made it out to be. Hell, EVERY Shotgun gets people crying and demanding nerfs. Its like they never played a Halo game before, and many haven't which I'll bet ya odds are THOSE are the people who do the most whining about 'em. Attila addressed the Felwinter too. [quote]Felwinter: |NERFED| As with all high-impact shotguns, the general consensus has been that the gun itself wasn't the underlying issue; the perks were. With 2.0, Rangefinder's effectiveness was substantially reduced, and 2.0.1 straight-up removed Shotpackage entirely. Because of that, the high-impact archetype is much more balanced across the board, with the low ROF becoming a more noticeable drawback in exchange for stopping power.[/quote] Sunbreakers? What the hell is your beef against those? They are the absolute WORST choice for Exotic Armor on Warlocks. Perfect example that people will just complain literally about anything and everything. Bad Juju? Its still garbage. [b]AND YET IT STILL HAS A YEAR 2 VERSION WITH THE EXACT SAME EVERYTHING...[/b] Red Death? Same deal as the Bad Juju, and just like it there is also a Year 2 version of Red Death with the exact same everything with the exception of a SLIGHT reduction to stability which doesn't mean jack shit because anyone who knows what they're doing in a Shooter likewise knows all about recoil control. Which factors into Player Skill. Which once again proves MY point that it has nothing to do with the weapons being OP but that skilled people are using them. And really ANY weapon will be just as deadly in their hands regardless anyways. You will literally need to nerf every single weapon they touch and even then they will STILL be better than everyone else. Gally? I was never a fan of it to begin with. I preferred my rare drop Steel Oracle Z-11 with Cluster Bombs for maximum carnage. Likewise, Attila also spoke on this one too. [quote]Gjallarhorn: |NERFED| Arguably the most notoriously "overpowered" weapon in any game ever, Ghorn's signature "Wolfpack Rounds" perk was given a noticeable damage decrease in 2.0, bringing it somewhat in line with other Rocket Launchers. It's still arguably the hardest hitting launcher in the game, but it's no longer the boss-melter that it once was.[/quote] What do I need to do to get you to finally admit that you're wrong about all this? Do I need to get God himself to appear before you and say so? Will only something that stupidly ridiculous be able to change your perspective? Seriously, I ask again, how does any of this pertain to Power Creep? All this demonstrates is that Bungie fails hard at weapon design and is too lazy to actually do the work required to properly manage their own game.