Sorry bro, but Low Grade Humility is a Tier 1 sniper in pvp. It can have the max possible aim assist+unflinching+hidden hand perk together. The other guns you mentioned seemed reasonably underpowered. Although, in year 2, Atheons Epilogue isn't half bad in crucible. It has more stability, somehow. Bungie gave their reasons for nerfing G horn. You've gone and committed classic straw man fallacy. That is not their position on why they nerfed G horn. They said they did it because player fireteams were being restricted by the players to only those that had G horn. I can accept that. It's all idiocy anyway. Bungie doesn't want Raids or Nightfalls/Heroic Strikes/Trials to have matchmaking. I forget the reason they gave for this, but it was so poor and indefensible that I have forgotten it entirely. Still need to have matchmaking for Raids and other end game fireteam-required content. And DESPITE this position they have taken on matchmaking, they have undermined the website titled "destinylfg.net" by making their own looking-for-group website blatantly copying: "destinylfg.com" for people to find other people to play end game content. I don't know about you guys but that seems like a big fat -blam!-ing LIE on Bungies' part. Why don't they just add a matchmaking option for all end game, fireteam-mandatory content. People OBVIOUSLY want this, there are tons of people looking for other people to play with in game modes that don't have matchmaking. The whole thing is preposterous. I do agree that making all of year one gear completely useless in The Taken King is a despicable act. A lot of players (myself included) spent a good long -blam!-ing time getting all of that shit (I had every exotic item in the game before TTK released) only to have it all made -blam!-ing useless. And what's more, many of year one exotics are nerfed (170 cap) and bright back at TTK gear values so we can get them all again and level them all up, another -blam!-ing time. Why am I paying to do the exact same shit two times? Insanity.