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Edited by RaG nuh RocK:
10/16/2015 2:53:02 AM
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Sorry bro, but Low Grade Humility is a Tier 1 sniper in pvp. It can have the max possible aim assist+unflinching+hidden hand perk together. The other guns you mentioned seemed reasonably underpowered. Although, in year 2, Atheons Epilogue isn't half bad in crucible. It has more stability, somehow.
Bungie gave their reasons for nerfing G horn. You've gone and committed classic straw man fallacy. That is not their position on why they nerfed G horn. They said they did it because player fireteams were being restricted by the players to only those that had G horn. I can accept that. It's all idiocy anyway. Bungie doesn't want Raids or Nightfalls/Heroic Strikes/Trials to have matchmaking. I forget the reason they gave for this, but it was so poor and indefensible that I have forgotten it entirely. Still need to have matchmaking for Raids and other end game fireteam-required content. And DESPITE this position they have taken on matchmaking, they have undermined the website titled "destinylfg.net" by making their own looking-for-group website blatantly copying: "destinylfg.com" for people to find other people to play end game content. I don't know about you guys but that seems like a big fat -blam!-ing LIE on Bungies' part. Why don't they just add a matchmaking option for all end game, fireteam-mandatory content. People OBVIOUSLY want this, there are tons of people looking for other people to play with in game modes that don't have matchmaking. The whole thing is preposterous.
I do agree that making all of year one gear completely useless in The Taken King is a despicable act. A lot of players (myself included) spent a good long -blam!-ing time getting all of that shit (I had every exotic item in the game before TTK released) only to have it all made -blam!-ing useless. And what's more, many of year one exotics are nerfed (170 cap) and bright back at TTK gear values so we can get them all again and level them all up, another -blam!-ing time. Why am I paying to do the exact same shit two times? Insanity.
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[quote]That is not their position on why they nerfed G horn. They said they did it because player fireteams were being restricted by the players to only those that had G horn.[/quote] Exactly, I never said they didn't. They nerfed it because it was [i]too good[/i], which [i]by extension[/i] created an exclusionary sense of elitism in Endgame fireteams. Now that Ghorn was [i]nerfed[/i], though, that elitism wouldn't [i]exists[/i] anymore (at least not related to Gjallarhorn). So, while that exclusion dictated a [i]nerf[/i], it in no way still dictates leaving it in [i]behind[/i]. :P I'm not even sure if your statement was directed at me, but yeah, haha.
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I feel compelled to add something that a buddy of mine saw that I didn't: Destiny year one was the Beta. Let that sink in. It makes sense. Bungie hopping back and forth between positions, buffing things then nerfing and then buffing them again, hastily adding an in game chat function that is still lackluster after player backlash at having no in game voice chat channels. It's a long list. All of the things you listed as complaints against Bungie's handling of Destiny is explained in the idea that Destiny Year One was the Beta.
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Edited by RaG nuh RocK: 10/16/2015 5:53:47 AMThanks for clarifying that for me. At face value, it appeared as though you were misrepresenting Bungie's position. Though I still firmly believe that Bungie created that mindset of "you must have G horn or you don't get to play" by not including matchmaking for mandatory-fireteam activities such as the raids. And there were other factors that contributed to that mindset, such as the bad leveling system that was based on light level, based on RNG armor drops from the raid. I mean, we are talking about a multiplayer game here. At its core, Destiny is a multiplayer game that is intended to be enjoyed while playing with others. And the best pve content is restricted to premade fireteams. I don't understand why Bungie doesn't add matchmaking queue options to things like the raids. I think they said something like... The raid doesn't have matchmaking because it requires much coordination and teamwork, something that we feel randomly constructed parties can't do very well. Well guess what Bungie, it hasn't taken us very long at all as a community, to find out how to beat the raids with random people. In fact we excell at it. We've demonstrated that it CAN be done, the proof lies with the LFG websites that have been made in response to, or as result of the lack of a matchmaking queue for raids etc... Hell, by my 3rd time through VoG when Destiny came out, I knew the raid inside and out. Don't even need a MIC, really. I know you didn't talk about matchmaking in your OP, but I feel the lack of matchmaking for the raid etc... causes a host of unnecessary problems. One of those problems was the G horn exclusion rule that inevitably came around from the players. At the very least, players who didn't have G horn could at least TRY the raid through a matchmaking queue instead of being excluded from it completely because you didn't have a G horn.
