Fair point and I need to underline that I HAVE completed all of them. I just don't like doing it =p Though I see I need to put more consideration into what the PvP crowd likes however. RyRy MT406 had an ingenious idea were you offer to paths of completion - one being PvP and other being PvE. That way you could pick which you want to do. When I have to perform in PvP, I will - when I wanted Invective in Year one I went on a 22 kill streak without dying; it's not that I can't - I'm just hoping I won't have to because I don't enjoy it at all, even when I win =p