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Edited by ByteMyPixels:
10/5/2015 3:42:36 AM
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Remember a year ago when Bladedancers were OP?
Bladedancers were the bane of the crucible in fall of 2014. Invisible, damage reduction, fast, and instant killing. Till people figured out Felwinter's Lie and Fist of Panic. People found the counter. Most of the time it was a powerful shotgun with 1 or 2 shots would stop a bladedancer.
Bladerdancers and Sunbreakers are the same thing. You are just seeing more sunbreakers because they are new. There are plenty of counters to the Sunbreaker. Its just going to be a while before people settle on the best.
1. Hammer of Sol is broadcasts itself clearly- consider running. That titan is going to be aggressive, out run them or hide and then ambush them when it wears off.
2. Nova Bomb or Fist of Havoc-Yeah, they will just get killed out right with these cancelling supers
3. Shadowshot- Silence them, this turns off all supers
4. Rockets are the answer to everything.
5. SNIPERS- If shotguns are the answer to the bladedancer snipers are the answer to a HoS. Hammers fall quick and are only useful up to medium range. If you are killed at long range by a hammer... they got lucky or you didn't move.
6. Good old group fire.
All these tactics except snipers will work well on a Sunbreaker, just switch sniper with shotgun and they work well on Bladedancers too.
EDIT: Bladedancers were barely touched in the year they have been out. and when the most significant nerf happened it wasn't to the class or the super it was to a jump ability that is used by 2 classes. Bladedancers still have a great super for PVP and just like Sunbreakers are average in end game PVE. The damage reduction of the bladedancer is more than enough that if you don't have a high impact shotgun, super, or heavy, they are going to kill you. Guess what 3 things also take out a sunbreaker? in a super?
EDIT 2: Note there is legendary armor that boosts defense even more when using a solar sub class. If a Titan (who already has the most armor in the game) stacked Solar Sub-Class armor + Highest Defense Rating + Armor Buff when using HoS (which is a % of total armor). YES a Titan can become a super tank. That doesn't mean its broken it means that player has a better build than yours.
EDIT 3: [url]http://xboxclips.com/GHOST+9o5/b6f770f4-fe93-4f9a-8e94-23c5e342e9f1[/url]- High Impact snipers require 1 Crit+ extra to drop a SunBreaker in super. However Sunsingers regularly take a shotgun to the face and live [url]https://youtu.be/bq_mPCWeylc[/url]. Also lets not forget that group fire is no match for a blade dancer [url]https://youtu.be/LIFFy-OYOUY[/url]
[u][b]EDIT 4: Sunbreakers can barely survive a single Golden Gun Shot[/b][/u] [url]https://youtu.be/7-lVT6W9eSA?t=7m[/url] Time to Buff GG in PVP. HOWEVER we do not know what armor this Sunbreaker is wearing. There is armor that buffs solar sub classes and/or reduces solar damage.
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They never where near as op as sunbreakers fact.
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The sniper shot was when his shield was partially down.
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5 RepliesRemember also that all the hunters were calling nerf to titan's striker? Now no one is talking about it.
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4 RepliesEDIT 4: No one but Titans had a problem with The Ram being OP armor, and it was for Warlocks. If Titans are suppose to be armor clad juggernauts, then very few things should OHK them. Barely surviving a GG is not an excuse to buff it. There wasn't a buff to Shoulder Charge when it was documented that you could not OHK Warlocks with certain specs and gear. Hunters are just too used to having their cake and eating it too.
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Edited by Tac Town Chris: 9/30/2015 8:11:34 PMI Have tha most op blade dancer clip of all time lmao #thagoodolddays let the titans have there hammers as long as there not using fist of panic who cares I hate fist of panic im bouts to kill u then all of sudden I get slammed smh lol
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Probably the most well thought out response to the Sunbreaker crisis. GG.
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3 RepliesEdit 3 is the worst proof I've seen in my life. You shot the Sunbreaker as he was damaged, meaning you changed a variable in your little "experiment", I won't go further into details due to my faith in you, but I highly suggest you headshot a Sunbreaker in full health with your sniper and witness a number that doesn't kill it. Edit 4 is beyond any dumb statement I've seen, I guarantee you don't even know what you're saying. I am witnessing a locally developed scientist playing with test tubes :/ [spoiler]2/10. 2 for the effort, but this bait or "experiment" isn't even that good, I'm glad I read it and replied out of boredom :-)[/spoiler]
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7 RepliesStill haven't taken down link in Edit 3. This thread is now irrelevant to me.
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2 RepliesThis shows that the two most OP classes are titand and hunter. Warlock needs a boost
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BD are still op if you know how to use them hand down The new pvp class of titan and lock are op too,so we have 3 op class in pvp The only thing that titan need is a fix for the bug and not 7 hammers but 4-5 End of story-
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2 RepliesBladedancers were never OP. Only the biggest of noobs could not handle it. And those were the same people complaining about and crying nerf for [u]everything[/u] that killed them.
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Rockets don't kill sunbreakers in 1 hit with full health
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Yea.....those where days Bubbles where awsome for Crucible, before everybody pops them with there supers now
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3 Replieswith number 4 I took a truth to the face and kept a hammerin
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Bladedancer =/= Sunbreaker. A Bladedancer needs to melee in order to kill. Sunbreakers just throw mini-Nova bombS Both a damage resistance but Sunbreaker can withstand a high-impact headshot while Bladedancer cannot Golden Gun can oneshot Bladedancer, a Sunbreaker just laugh and throw hammers
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They have never been OP. Folks need to learn to keep own supers for situations like BD or heavy ammo, hammer of sol counters.
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Edited by YFT Zero: 9/29/2015 11:41:00 PMI remember, it was horrible. They has a 100% damage reduction if I remember correctly.
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Yes I do. -blam!- those days.
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Wait they still are!!! Ha-Ha
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33 RepliesHammer of Sol beats Shadowshot, for everyone wondering. Oh, you'll cancel the super for sure, but you'll get one-shot by a hammer before you can quite land the tether. It's not a very satisfying trade.
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1 ReplyThe difference between BD and HoS is the overshield. Low-med pulse rifle impact precision damage on BD:18 On HoS:13
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39 RepliesEdited by SoloXYZ: 9/29/2015 7:38:34 PMRead the first paragraph and stopped. People didn't figure out jack shit. People cried for months. Bladedancers got fking nerfed. Sunbreakers need a fking nerf. Edit: 25% health reduction the Bladedancers got is no small nerf, that's HUGE in a game of milliseconds. No one can justify Sunbreakers having more health than Bladedancers. Just stop. No wait nvm... try me. I want to hear this. Edit: for those coming at me with "Titans are tanks and they should have more health blah" shit, you're playing the wrong game. This game was clearly not made for the intent of rolls such as Tank, DPS, Healer etc. If you've played any real game where these rolls actually exist, I wouldn't have to tell you this.
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Well....blade dancer use to be more powerful when it had added armor ability at the release of year one and then took it away because it was unfair that it was a super tht could kill and not be killed
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They are still very good. Blade dancers and golden gun still rank highest in pvp kills per super. By a lot.
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Anyone want to boost the exotic sword bounty
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2 Replieshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7-lVT6W9eSA 7:10 he will use super and not take damage till he is struck by a golden gun. I main PVE content so I would prefer there to be no nerfs only buffs to anything. But I did decide to see if I could prove or disprove the golden gun thing. Seems they can tank it. Though I don't care to change it me and my best friend combo Shadow shot and HOS for some fun damage in PVE.
