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Edited by ByteMyPixels: 10/5/2015 3:42:36 AM
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Remember a year ago when Bladedancers were OP?

Bladedancers were the bane of the crucible in fall of 2014. Invisible, damage reduction, fast, and instant killing. Till people figured out Felwinter's Lie and Fist of Panic. People found the counter. Most of the time it was a powerful shotgun with 1 or 2 shots would stop a bladedancer. Bladerdancers and Sunbreakers are the same thing. You are just seeing more sunbreakers because they are new. There are plenty of counters to the Sunbreaker. Its just going to be a while before people settle on the best. 1. Hammer of Sol is broadcasts itself clearly- consider running. That titan is going to be aggressive, out run them or hide and then ambush them when it wears off. 2. Nova Bomb or Fist of Havoc-Yeah, they will just get killed out right with these cancelling supers 3. Shadowshot- Silence them, this turns off all supers 4. Rockets are the answer to everything. 5. SNIPERS- If shotguns are the answer to the bladedancer snipers are the answer to a HoS. Hammers fall quick and are only useful up to medium range. If you are killed at long range by a hammer... they got lucky or you didn't move. 6. Good old group fire. All these tactics except snipers will work well on a Sunbreaker, just switch sniper with shotgun and they work well on Bladedancers too. EDIT: Bladedancers were barely touched in the year they have been out. and when the most significant nerf happened it wasn't to the class or the super it was to a jump ability that is used by 2 classes. Bladedancers still have a great super for PVP and just like Sunbreakers are average in end game PVE. The damage reduction of the bladedancer is more than enough that if you don't have a high impact shotgun, super, or heavy, they are going to kill you. Guess what 3 things also take out a sunbreaker? in a super? EDIT 2: Note there is legendary armor that boosts defense even more when using a solar sub class. If a Titan (who already has the most armor in the game) stacked Solar Sub-Class armor + Highest Defense Rating + Armor Buff when using HoS (which is a % of total armor). YES a Titan can become a super tank. That doesn't mean its broken it means that player has a better build than yours. EDIT 3: [url]http://xboxclips.com/GHOST+9o5/b6f770f4-fe93-4f9a-8e94-23c5e342e9f1[/url]- High Impact snipers require 1 Crit+ extra to drop a SunBreaker in super. However Sunsingers regularly take a shotgun to the face and live [url]https://youtu.be/bq_mPCWeylc[/url]. Also lets not forget that group fire is no match for a blade dancer [url]https://youtu.be/LIFFy-OYOUY[/url] [u][b]EDIT 4: Sunbreakers can barely survive a single Golden Gun Shot[/b][/u] [url]https://youtu.be/7-lVT6W9eSA?t=7m[/url] Time to Buff GG in PVP. HOWEVER we do not know what armor this Sunbreaker is wearing. There is armor that buffs solar sub classes and/or reduces solar damage.

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  • https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7-lVT6W9eSA 7:10 he will use super and not take damage till he is struck by a golden gun. I main PVE content so I would prefer there to be no nerfs only buffs to anything. But I did decide to see if I could prove or disprove the golden gun thing. Seems they can tank it. Though I don't care to change it me and my best friend combo Shadow shot and HOS for some fun damage in PVE.

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    • I golden gunned a Sunbreaker today in the daily skirmish! Felt EPIC :D 24 kills 3 deaths! 8.0K/D

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      • i think sunbreakers are good where they are because no one is afraid of a sunbreaker with out the hammers. its when the hammers come out everyone is scared. Its like a vampire. people are only afraid of them at night but during the day they are just weak or weaker than everyone else. until they're super is charged of course.

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      • So to all you salty little hunters, complaining about how "SUNBREAKERS SOAK GOLDEN GUN" No they do not, in the original post. To all those who say that sniping them doesn't work, well those work too. #LINKSOFPROOF

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        • Snipers can't one shot HoS

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          • So. Very. True.

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          • Well said

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          • Blade dancers actually had perks that went around gun play and super while sunbreakers perks focus around the super mostly.

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            • Just wow you guys cry and moan so much it's not even funny. It's a game just play it. P.S. I play all the classes and nightstalker is my favorite right now.

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            • Edited by GHOST 9o5: 9/29/2015 7:42:30 PM
              Edit 3: If you weren't blind OP, you could tell that his health was dropped. Fail. Also Her Aim Assist lol Edit 4; We know, it requires the SunBreaker to be at full armor.

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              • Edited by The 75th Zebra: 9/29/2015 7:01:06 PM
                Your funny, you said use a sniper. You do realize that snipers can't 1 shot a sunbreaker, even with a headshot. Learn OP, before you post false information Also for the Titan dying in 1 shot from golden gun, you can pearly see his teammate either shooting shadow shoot and it connecting to the wall for crit damage, or a void bullets or void grenade in the area he died. He obviously had help from a teammate.

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                • Says this guy who mains a Titan

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                  • I don't. They were never OP. Everyone just was stupid to try to kill them with AR. GG was OP and is OP still. And I love it.

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                  • Except that bladedancers have to be close to you. Try shotgun meleeing a HoS titan, he will laugh. Wanna snipe him? Oh lol I eat your headshot with a high impact sniper and then hit you with a hammer. Alright guys I damaged him a lot finish him off, oh wait he triggered his health regen and has full health nevermind. Alright guys lets if we focus fire him we can get him. Wait nevermind he's standing in a sunspot and has an overshield and can throw a hammer at all 6 of us. RIP

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                    • Meh, there's a way to counter all supers. For HoS, just stay in the air. I do agree that a high impact sniper headshot should kill them, but I don't believe 1 GG shot should kill them. If you can get one GG off, you can get two. Slight nerf to health would be sufficient IMO.

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                      • Lol don't try and justify the hammer of Sol. And, if the solar armor is adding that much armor, they will probably be tweaking that too.

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                      • Fuc.k bladedancers.

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                      • They nerfed bladedancers because they were OP.... Point not proven.

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                        • More like a month ago.. hasn't been a year bud..

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                          • Remember when you had to be hella close to use blade dancer ? Not cross map chunking 20 hammers

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                          • [quote][quote]Titan complain about bladedancer: Agreed, gets nerfed Titans complain about ram: Agreed, gets nerfed Titans complain about Axion bolt: Agreed, gets nerfed Titans complain about arc bolt grenades: Agreed, gets nerfed Titans complain about Fusion grenades: Agreed, gets nerfed Hunters and Warlocks complain about Fist of Havoc killing you while you 7 feet in the air: Titans call them butthurt, no nerf Hunters and Warlocks complain about Sunbreaker having too much amour and ask for it to be brought down a little to balance out supers (seems fair since bladedancer was nerfed): Titans go full butthurt defence mode, activate all scrub burners and reply to OPs thread for 8 hours straight calling him an idiot. Never go full Titan.[/quote][/quote]

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                            • Blade dancers wreck stormcallers

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                            • Edited by High Charity: 9/29/2015 2:00:52 PM
                              "Bladrdancers were barely touched" No, they got nuked to hell. They got hit with a 75% health reduction in November, which was huge and added the counters to it. Additionally, BD can be easily killed by a single sniper headshot, a shotgun blast+melee, or a single GG shot. Guess what doesn't work on SB Titans? All three. This is what SB needs, health nerf to bring it in line with BD and Cauterize to not instantly regen health+OS. Regenerating the OS immediately and then waiting rot the health by a second delay is fine. Or do it the other way around.

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                            • You mean 2 weeks after the game came out? Mmm no not really I don't remember much about that back then

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                            • BD is still OP in the right hands. Hammer shouldn't be a big deal, just accept the power and hope to cath the Titan when he doesn't have a super up :-) Innit

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                            • FR headshot takes em down

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