Thought you just meant blade dancer hitting people. Yeah if they're in a super it takes more hits, they have increase armor. Nova bomb has a OHK if taken directly so I don't see the argument really...

Ok look at it like this Blade dancer- two hit kill swipe more if enemy is in super mode Gun slinger- one shot kill unless sun breaker in super or sun singer in super with pre nurf ram Nova bomb- one hit kill super or not sun breaker with high armor and full health can survive direct hit Striker- one hit kill super or not if close enough sun breaker with high armor stat and full health can survive direct hit And now Sun breaker- one hit kill super or not distance from target irrelevant Do the math talent intelligence and skill should matter in a game like this but when one super out classes every other super out there more ways then one then the player using that class has an advantage over everyone else not using that class thus making it OP and rendering the use of skill talent or intelligence an ineffective weapon To me it's like the vex before the nurf- super awesome faster than an auto if you are fast enough and it can kill in three rounds or less it needed a nurf and I get it how some people cry nurf when they don't need to but I know the difference and the sun breaker needs a nurf but on the other hand I hope it's not broken after the fact like with the vex and if they don't they need to make every super like that

Problem really is that the nerf will hit PvE where Sunbreaker is actually helpful. The PVP problem with it isn't serious enough to make the class useless. Sunbreaker is only good for its DPS, take that away and it's useless in PvE as well.

And the armor? My blade dancer is awesome in PvE but I have only taken out an entire team once in PvP and I've never seen a video of it but I have seen several sun breakers take out the entire team and it only been a week

I have no problem dropping sunbreakers armor. If anything they're only hard to kill cause when they get a kill their wealth regenerates. As for killing entire teams, it's just outclassed. Not trying to sound like a dick, but if I can point out how another super or class can do it, it's not op in my eyes.

It's easy how they do it.....throw around some -blam!-ing hammers until everyone is dead and if someone respawns then throw some more -blam!-ing hammers out there simple

It's devastating but not really OP. Team shouldn't be huddled so close to allow 1-2 hammers wipe them. Supers are meant to wipe teams (except bubble). Taking a super down even with another super is a tactical situation. Gotta find what you as a player can do then work off that. Hammers put me down a lot but they are not indestructible. If anything they are just the hardest super to deal with for others.

Yes all supers should be able to wipe a whole team out but they don't and if you do you are lucky it's easier with the Titan I just want a balance so when someone beats me or anyone else it's because they are better or got really lucky for a game not because they kill 5 people and shut down the other teams 3 supers with only one Titans And this happened yesterday shut me down as a blade dancer Then one hit a gun slinger Then one hit the Jedi warlock He only popped after we did and got 4 kills we where three this that is fine but it's the fact that he died before his super ran out and got shot to shit before he dropped anyone else would have died twice

Propose a nerf that won't ruin the class and I'll back it up. I go for balance, if anything they can have reduced armor or health. But I don't see any other way without completely making them horrid.