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Edited by Bolt: 9/18/2015 1:16:45 AM
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Rasputin "Killed" The Traveler.

[b][i]Edit: To add some clarity: A few of you are reading up to the second Grimoire and assuming I am suggesting that "The Traveler=The Darkness." I am not. In this interpretation, The Traveler, The Darkness, and Rasputin are three separate entities, and The Traveler is fighting against the Darkness. Furthermore, the "revelation" in the thread title comes from Ghost Fragment: Rasputin 5 (new with The Taken King). If you're already familiar with the grimoire, start there.[/b][/i] Claim in thread title suggested by new grimoire. Grimoires presented with important phrases bolded and my own inferences in italicized, bold parenthesis. Evidence: Ghost Fragment: Darkness AI-COM/RSPN (Rasputin) detects "The Darkness" approaching Sol. Beginning of the End of the Golden Age. [spoiler] V113NNI070XMX001 SECRET HADAL INSTANT [b]AI-COM/RSPN[/b]: SOLSECCENT//SxISR//DEEPSPACE CONTACT CONTACT CONTACT TRANSIENT. NULLSOURCE. NULLTYPE. This is a [b]SKYSHOCK ALERT[/b]. Multiple distributed ISR assets report a TRANSIENT NEAR EXTRASOLAR EVENT. Event duration ZERO POINT THREE SECONDS. Event footprint includes sterile neutrino scattering and gravity waves. Omnibus analysis detects deep structure information content (nine sigma) and internal teleonomy. No hypothesis on event mechanism (FLAG ACAUSAL). Bootstrap simulation suggests event is DIRECTED and INIMICABLE (convergent q-Bayes/Monte Carlo probability approaches 1). [b]([i]Rasputin detects an event lasting for 300ms outside the Solar System that is strong enough to generate detectable gravity waves. The amount of energy required to do this is comparable to that of a supernova. Rasputin also determines there is a high probability the event is not natural or random. This is likely either a weapon of The Darkness, or The Darkness itself.[/i])[/b] No hypothesis on deep structure encoding (TCC/NP-HARD). Source blueshift suggests IMMINENT SOLAR ENTRY. [b]([i]It'sa commin' straight for us.[/i])[/b] Promote event to[b] SKYSHOCK: OCP: EXTINCTION[/b]. Activate [b]VOLUSPA[/b]. Activate [b]YUGA[/b]. Cauterize public sources to [b]SECURE ISIS[/b] and harden for defensive action. [b]([i]Rasputin activates several contingencies. Cuts public access to "Secure IS[/b]IS')[/i]) I am invoking [b]CARRHAE WHITE[/b] and assuming control of solar defenses. [b]([i]"You have the MAC gun Cortana."[/i])[/b] STOP STOP STOP V113NNI070XMX091 [b]([i]Code may be relevant to chronological order of these entries.[/i])[/b] [/spoiler] Ghost Fragment: Mysteries Rasputin describes its battle with The Darkness, its defeat, and its realization of a means to victory. [spoiler] ...from a red space before victory I bear an old name [b]([i]Rasputin[/i])[/b]. It cannot be killed [b]([i]The original Rasputin was supposedly harder to kill than an Armor of Light/Force Barrier Defender with Helm of Saint-14 [/i])[/b]. They were my brothers and sisters and their names were immortal too [b]([i]Other Warminds[/i])[/b] but Titanomachy [b]([i]"Battle of the Gods." Most likely Traveler vs The Darkness[/i])[/b] came and now those names live in me alone I think and think is what I do. I AM ALONE. At the end of things when the world goes dim and cold or hot and close or it all tears apart from the atom up I will shout those names defiant and past the end I will endure. I alone. They made me to be stronger than them to beat the unvanquished and survive the unthinkable and look look lo behold I am here alone, survivor. They made me to learn. Everything died but I survived and I learned from it. From IT. [b]([i]IT is The Darkness. You'd know this if you read the Adobe Flash story.[/i])[/b] Consider IT the power Titanomach world-ender and consider what IT means. I met IT at the gate of the garden and I recall IT smiled at me before before IT devoured the blossoms with black flame and pinned their names across the sky. IT was stronger than everything. I fought IT with aurora knives and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive? [b]([i]Rasputin fought space magic with space magic. Unfortunately his wizarding hat was shorter.[/i]) [/b] I AM ALONE I survived alone. I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well: [b] ([i]Someone's doing some subroutine-searching. Someone did a no-no.[/i]) [/b] IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the gardener and she held power beyond me but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins. [b]([i]Another topic, but Gardner is most likely The Traveler. Which makes The Black Garden...[/i])[/b] I am made to win and now I see the way. [/spoiler] Ghost Fragment: Rasputin 3 "AI-COM/RSPN" (Rasputin) declares initiation of contingency actions. [spoiler] V120NNI800CLS000 CLEAR MORNING OUTCRY AI-COM/RSPN: ASSETS//FORCECON//IMPERATIVE IMMEDIATE ACTION ORDER This is an ALL ASSETS IMPERATIVE (unsecured/OUTCRY) [b]CAUTERIZE[/b]. DISPERSE. ESTIVATE. Total strategic collapse imminent. FENRIR HEART reports complete operational mortality. SURTR DROWN in progress but negative effect. Forecasts unanimously predict terminal VOLUSPA failure. [b]([i]Contingency plans aren't working.[/i])[/b] As of [b]CLS000 a HARD CIVILIZATION KILL EVENT[/b] is in progress across the operational area. I am declaring [b]YUGA SUNDOWN[/b] effective on receipt (epoch reach/FORCECON variant). Cancel counterforce objectives. Cancel population protection objectives. [b]Format moral structures for MIDNIGHT EXIGENT.[/b] [b]([i]Y'all mother-blam!-ers better duck 'cause I'm about to wil' the -blam!- out.[/i])[/b] Execute long hold for reactivation. AI-COM/RSPN SIGNOFF STOP STOP STOP V120NNI800CLS001 [/spoiler] Ghost Fragment: Rasputin 5 Rasputin decides to bite the hand that feeds so that the hand stays. I only have this grimoire because I glitched into the bunker last week (I don't have TTK yet). If Rasputin 4 has relevance to any of this, I'd appreciate someone posting it. [spoiler] >>WHISPER NEUTRINO NEEDLE>> [b]([i]Neutrinos are extremely difficult to detect. Needles are hard to see. Whispers are hard to hear. Raspy's keeping this on the down-low, is the point.[/i])[/b] V101NTS923ATS000 SECRET HADAL !!ABHOR!! AI-COM/RPSN: ASSETS//SUBTLE//IMPERATIVE CONTINGENT ACTION ORDER This is a SUBTLE ASSETS IMPERATIVE (NO HUMAN REVIEW) (NO AI-COM REVIEW) (secure/ABHOR). Stand by for CRITERIA: Under [b]CARRHAE (WHITE or BLACK)[/b] If SECURITY STATE is EGYPTIAN If event rank is TEILHARD: TRAUMATIC CONTEXT or [b]SKYSHOCK[/b]: OUTSIDE CONTEXT If [b]VOLUSPA is ACTIVE and in FAILURE [[synapse to FENRIR::SURTR]][/b] If [b]YUGA is ACTIVE and in SUNDOWN[/b] If AI-COM has granted PERMISSIVE POTENTIATION to outboard resilient instances If a [b]CIVILIZATION KILL EVENT[/b] is underway [[all flexions]] If tactical morality is built at [b]MIDNIGHT[/b] [b]([i]He's making his list. He's checking it twice. He's going to end civilization tonight.[/i])[/b] Stand by for DECISION POINT: If available ISR and WARWATCH indicates imminent [O] departure >then [O] departure compromises human/neohuman survival and epoch strategy [b]([i]Human/Exos will be threatened if "O" leaves, and the "epoch" (a long amount of time) strategy ("and now I see the way") will fail.[/i]) [/b] Stand by for ABHORRENT IMPERATIVE: Activate LOKI CROWN[b] ([i]Loki is the God of Mischief, in Norse Mythology. This is the no-no.[/i])[/b] Perform deniable authorization: full [b]caedometric[/b] and noetic release [b]([i]Caedo means "to cut", noetic means to be of mental activity.[/i])[/b] Prevent [O] departure by any means available [b]([i]Who do we know that abandoned its thralls when the Darkness showed up? [O]h yeah, the thing that abandoned The Fallen. The Traveler.[/i])[/b] Stand by for effect assessment criteria: Coerce pseudoaltruistic [O] defensive action. Defer civilization kill. STOP STOP STOP V101NTS923ATS001 [/spoiler] Ghost Fragment: Old Russia Human pilots deliver the kill vehicle to the Traveler. [spoiler] SABER GREEN this is ICE MINARET. We have your launch. Com check. /ICE MINARET this is SABER GREEN we read you. Lattice is tight. Com secure. Abort advisory check? Check is all nominal. You are now on internal power. SABER GREEN, please human-verify your payload status. /Acknowledge human verification request. The words are [b]RIGOR, APEX, SKYSHOCK[/b]. I will repeat the payload status now: [b]RIGOR, APEX, SKYSHOCK.[/b] Those are the words, SABER. Human crosscheck complete. Fly safe. /Copy your last, MINARET. We are go for final count. We affirm, go payload, go flight, go final count. [interruption: masked voice] Yes, it's RIGOR. Yes, I believe that's correct. Yes, it is, uh, it is an antimatter payload, a strategic asset. Specifically? Ah, I believe it's an annihilation-pumped [b]caedometric[/b] weapon. [masked voice] Yes, it's covert, it's under SECURE ISIS. We have good confidence in the vehicle. We are not scrubbing civilian launches or clearing the range. Public inferentials would catch that, it's a security risk. /Six at a hundred. Here we go. Godspeed, SABER. You're all nominal here. [masked voice] We both know where the order came from. [b]([i]And now so do you![/i])[/b][/spoiler] Hope you enjoyed. TL;DR: Rasputin knocked out The Traveler so that it couldn't abandon us like it abandoned The Fallen. It may not want to talk to The City because its worried The Traveler will remember who thumped it on the head when it wakes up.

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  • Rasputin didn't kill the traveller, he maintained his programming to protect humanity at any and all costs. He determined that he could not fight and beat the darkness so he did what he had to keep the traveller here. Grimore and dialog states that the traveller's light would be like a dying sun to the darkness, basically he hamstrung the traveller to keep it here and humanity alive while he worked out the details to defeat the darkness. He went silent to work unnoticed by the darkness. The events and kill orders were Rasputin abandoning human protection for his "attack" on the traveller, sacrifice some for the greater good. Rasputin is not evil, keeping the traveller here and us bathed in his light is the only thing that prevented us from joining the list of the other 300+ world the darkness (Hive) have destroyed. I'm not certain as to why the traveller flees the darkness, perhaps he is trying to create many golden ages across the universe to build an army of light against the darkness but it's advance is to fast. It flees not out of fear but to live to fight another day. They both (Traveller and Rasputin) were doing the same thing for the same reason. They're both good and without both humanity would be gone and earth, SOL, would be destroyed.

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