Unless the raid looks incredibly fun, I ain't touching destiny again ever. The grind to even try the raid looks so stupidly boring. Eh, even if it does look fun, it's the players that ruin it for me. I loved VoG. Then my [i]FORUM[/i] matchmaking would throw squeakers, potheads, drunks, and assholes into my raid team, which always seems to take 45 minutes to build up before [i]actually[/i] playing the friggen game.