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Edited by Coyote_x_Starrk: 9/16/2015 1:46:06 AM
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You have not had any content taken away from you so please stop saying that you have.

Before we start let me say first off I am no "Desticle" I have not bought TTK and I have no intention to do so until I see review scores and impressions that make me feel its worth my $40 purchase. So I am missing out on the new content just like you guys are. I don't drink the Kool Aid. I think that $40 for a DLC is a joke even if it is an "Expansion". I personally believe I am one of the most outspoken critics on the forums regarding TTK and its various scandals. Then why am I bothering to post this you ask? Because I believe in fairness and the ranting and raving I am seeing in thread after thread is not fair towards Bungie. It is a HUGE overreaction and the bombastic claims of being robbed of content and being scammed is just downright idiotic. [b][u]You have not had any missions, strikes, raids, or weapons taken away from you that you have purchased. You can still play all the TDB missions/strikes, HoW missions/strikes and you can certainly still play the vanilla missions/strikes. The same goes for the crucible. You still have every right to play the maps that you have already paid for in the classic playlists in the crucible. [/u][/b] The only thing you have been locked out of is new endgame content like Nightfalls, Weeklies, Raid etc etc. That is not content that you bought that is a [i]FEATURE[/i] of the game. A feature that centers [i]around [/i]the latest content. When you bought TDB you bought the strikes, missions, gear etc etc and the Nightfall then took that content and featured it every week. Now that TTK is the latest content the Nightfall now features THAT content. So no you don't get to do the Nightfall because the Nightfall features new content. Content that you have not paid for. So please stop acting as if Bungie came into your game and pulled all of the missions and gear from your bleeding fingers and pissed on your Ghost. This is how expansion based games have operated for YEARS now. The new expansion comes out with new gear, new missions, and a new level cap. That new content is then featured front and center in every way and the old content is pushed off to the side. WoW, Diablo, SWTOR etc etc have followed this design for years. This is not new and this not shocking. They did it for TDB and they did it for HoW, but they did it on a smaller scale because they were smaller packages. TTK is essentially Destiny 1 part 2. So of course its impact on the day to day functionality of the game is gonna be MUCH more noticeable and much more profound. You paid for content. You got that content. You [i]still have[/i] that content. You can still play that content. [i]Features[/i] such as the endgame activities however will always be geared toward the latest content and if you don't have that content then you obviouslly cannot participate in the features that use that new content. The same goes for the levelcap as well. You paid for the level-cap to be increased in each of the new DLC's that came out because they were TIED to that content and you need that gear in order to REACH that new cap. They have now raised it again and have tied that cap to the new gear. Gear you don't have access to because you have not paid for it yet. So of [i]COURSE[/i] the Vendors are going to be selling the latest and greatest gear. Do you honestly think that they should still be selling old level Vanilla gear like Shadow Price or The Devil You Know even though its been outclassed ages ago? I understand that you are upset that your options are limited now because the content you bought is no longer[i] featured[/i], but don't sit their and claim that it is no longer there or that you no longer have access to it. Because it is and you do.

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  • I think there are points to be made on both sides of the fence. I haven't bought it yet, because I chose to spend all my extra money on my sons birthday. Im not poor, $40 is not a large amount of money. Regardless of reviews I will buy it, just can't yet. Destiny is about moving on and tackling new content every few months for me, I don't mind paying to do just that. Im told control playlist is gone if you dont have TTK, and if so that sucks. Strikes,nightfalls,and vendor gear all mean jack shit TO ME, not everyone will feel that way though. I have played and gottent all I need from those "endgame" activities. Now to my smartass comment. Each week here on the forums there are posts about destiny not being an MMO, most have said it isn't. Now ALL you guys are comparing TTK to an MMOs expansion. You are all silly.

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  • Well said. If there are anyone who reads this and is still confused, then you're an idiot.

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  • Edited by SpakulatorX: 9/16/2015 11:39:39 AM
    Have you played destiny without the exspansion? Strikes: no reward Crucible: limited Playlist End game content: unneeded raids & PoE Patrols I'm not playing til I can get the exp, no blaming point nothing to do.

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    • OP did you even play the game nowadays without TTK? you should do that. Truly a dumb post defending bungie.

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      marvelous post! These people are complaining about no nightfall, but Bungie is improving it and bringing it back are they not?

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      • The control playlist is gone if you don't have TTK

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      • What a long boring post pointing out the obvious, and then somehow misinterpreting it. I don't play this game very much, I probably won't buy TTK... The fact is, I can no longer do the exciting and more challenging parts of the game. However you want to word this and compare to other games, this is a reduction in content for a lot of users. I got bored of reading, but did you consider Iron Banner? Presumably non TTK players can no longer compete in this, or if they do try, will get eaten by level 40 players with higher attack and defense stats? If so, this is a further reduction in content.

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        • OP, your nose is brown.

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        • You are stupid. Beyond stupid. Did they have nightfall before. Yes. Do they now, No. That is content taken away. Your whole rant was just proven stupid.

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          • This all day long.

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          • In the time you wrote this post you could've earned 40$ to buy ttk

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          • I actually have a genuine question though. Does anyone know whenever the Taken king DLC will be accessible to Year 1 players? I've looked at the Xbox marketplace and just says that it "isn't available." Supposedly, people who purchased HoW and DB expansions (I bought the season pass) will be able to do this. I guess that the company is holding out and waiting until the cannot use the hype of annoying brats "who have to have the game right now" to release it? Idk... Any ideas? Am I the only one?

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            • However... it is the TAKEN King... :p

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            • We bought nightfalls and weekly/daily events when we bought the -blam!-ing vanilla game bro

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              • Nice job, well put. Honestly, if you're a day one player that hasn't bought the DLC, what do you need The Weekly strikes for anyway? I've got 750 Strange Coin and every exotic (besides Mythoclast) that could drop in a Nightfall. Haven't bought anything from Xür in a month or two. For the last 3 weeks leading up to the Taken King I literally had no weapon or armor to upgrade. Had some fun Raiding parties with my clan, but I was dying for new gear and content. I don't know how you could pass on this DLC and still have stuff to do.

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              • Logic on this forums?? You gonna get a nice shitstorm going on here.

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              • I have posted a link to this thread on every other post I've seen where the poster is crying.

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              • People are really gonna lose it when the game they paid for goes offline one day. Sure it may not happen today, tomorrow or in a year but it will happen someday.

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              • Excellent post OP.

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              • Good post and well said man.

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              • I have TTK pre-ordered. Waiting to see if I'm possibly switching to PS4. But to see how screwed over non-TTKers are right now (myself included) makes me think again about paying money to Activision/Bungie. Now there is no reason to play (I have 3 level 34s). You don't level up, you can't earn legendary marks. I understand the playlist changes - but it's now completely meaningless in terms of progression and rewards. If people are playing your game and enjoying it they will then want to invest more money and buy expansions. Right now, since the launch of TTK I'm feeling no compulsion to play and that in turn is making me question purchasing TTK. [u]My suggestion[/u] Surely they can let everyone get to level 40 and give people a way to earn legendary marks like everyone was able to earn vanguard and crucible marks. These systems have been in place since day 1 - these are what have been "taken", not content.

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              • It´s easy: Destiny is a 10-year-plan of a game. The game can not stop at one time... you must go in the destiny-train and pay new stuff to drive it... or you must go out the train and stay on the station and you can not drive any more... if you know this, than you know, you need ~100-120 Dollar a year. i think, destiny 2, don´t support old gen consoles. Then you must upgrade (and cry again) ... And perhaps, destiny 4, we need a PS5 ... Don´t know yet... so, come on the train, or left, but don´t cry...

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                • Bump, because the man gets it.

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                • if you dont have the TTK then there is no point in you being 40. also the weapons that drop or for the TTK so you wouldnt need them as a green weapon is much more powerful then your ascended Raid weapon or year exotics for that matter. when i played last night got a rare that was better then gally (RIP)

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                • Edited by Alcatan: 9/16/2015 11:26:53 AM
                  Your logic is flawed, by your own definition you class these as "end game CONTENT" they were "end game CONTENT" when Vanilla destiny came out, also when TDB and HOW came out, the fact bungie have added NEW CONTENT to the End game CONTENT does not mean they have a right to LOCK you out of the END GAME CONTENT you have already bought! the only thing that cannot be classed as content is the GRIMOIRE because it is not actually in the game. Anything that you call a FEATURE that occurs within the base game is CONTENT. Therefore Bungie have locked people out of CONTENT that they have already paid for. All the Nightfall Strikes that they played up until the release of TTK is CONTENT that they had access to.

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                • No one to.my knowledge has ever said that if you buy this game now you will be playing the same game in 10 years. If you don't like the journey you have been placed on get off it and look for something more meaningful to do in life than moaning about change. Well done op for this post.

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