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Edited by SSG ACM: 11/24/2015 4:08:17 AM
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Where Did God Come From?

It is true that supernatural causes are a subject outside of science, but [b]intelligent versus unintelligent causes is a subject very much within science[/b]. For example, forensic scientists and pathologists regularly determine whether a death was due to natural causes or intelligent causes. If somebody dies of a purported heart failure, and then they do an autopsy on the body and find signs of arsenic poisoning, they say this was not a death by natural causes; it was a poisoning. That is perfectly legitimate as a scientific inquiry. Now, if the intelligent cause turns out to be supernatural, that's a determination that is outside of science, but as you can see, [b]the self-evident fact of the matter is that intelligence is not a determination that's outside of science[/b]. It's in fact the regular business of science, like deciding whether a drawing on a cave wall is a painting by prehistoric cavemen or a product of natural erosion and chemistry on a rock wall. God, by definition, created everything (Jn. 1:1), including the time dimension that we exist in; however, He isn't affected by time (2 Ptr. 3:8); therefore, He doesn't exist in time; thus, He does not require a cause. [b][i][u]BEFORE ANYONE COMMENTS[/u][/i][/b], I would like you to state your opinion with a source, and I would have loved it if you at least read the OP. All truth is outside everyone's personal, political, and religious opinion. So don't state anything that is literally from your opinion.

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  • Edited by Trad: 9/15/2015 7:38:14 AM
    It's entirely possible that you, I, and everyone else, simply cannot and never will comprehend that in its entirety. Just because we have the capacity to [i]think[/i] does not mean we have the capacity for infinite understanding. Compare it to "normal" physics vs. quantum physics. Shit makes sense at our level, shit doesn't make as much sense at the lower levels. We don't expect to see one tiger in two places at the same time, so we assume one thing can not be in two places at the same time, and that this makes sense across the entirety of physics. Quantum physics tells us differently. Likewise, Past vs. Future makes some sense to us here, but it probably has no meaning regarding "When/Where did the original thing come from". /layman thoughts

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