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How does that make him not all powerful? He didn't have to say it, he chose to.
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  • No, he was in conversation. If he is all powerful, why did he need to cut open Adam to make Eve, instead of doing his magic bullshit and just extracting the rib through teleportation.

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  • Because he chose to. You're confusing what God can do with what he chooses to do.

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  • No I'm not. Why would he cut Adam? Why would he choose the physical way to do EVERYTHING, when he can pull some magic? You are automatically ruling out that maybe the old testament [i]is[/i] literal. That is why a lot of Athiest I know do not follow religion. Because the answers could be there, but you all move around them, and take a "because he can" standpoint.

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  • I'm not ruling anything out. Maybe he works through natural processes so there is a natural record of what's he's done.

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  • Yet you rule out that we cannot become gods, just no God. Yet you rule out that he may be a physical being with advanced tech. What was the Ark of the Covenant holding? I need to hear this one.

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  • The ten commandments.

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  • So the 10 commandments were written on slabs of Uranium? Makes sense.

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  • What are you taking about? Have you been watching too much Indiana Jones?

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  • No. Look back in your old testament. Somewhere in there, should you use a KJV, it says that those who handled it died, and had a loss of hair and nails. All three of those are side effects of radiation poisoning.

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  • The bible doesn't say anything about hair and fingernail loss. When the Philistines stole the ark God plagued then with tumors and mice until they returned it to the Israelites. When the ark was in the temple the spirit of God was atop the ark, therefore anyone who had sin would die if they went into its presence, because sin cannot exist in the presence of God without being judged and the penalty is death.

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  • Read it again. It is in there.

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  • Please cite the verse. But regardless, what does it prove?

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  • The Ark had to be carried 1000 to 3400 meters ahead of the Israelites, on wooden poles. Those who touched it died, and the handlers suffered from hair and nail loss. This is stated in one of the passages describing the Israelite's journey through the Wilderness. I'm looking for it as you read this.

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  • Please do, but again, what does that show? God wanted it handled a certain way and those that disobeyed, died.

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  • Edited by CybrWyteTygr: 9/6/2015 9:16:24 PM
    http://grisham.newsvine.com/_news/2011/02/17/6070687-fact-or-fiction-ark-of-the-covenant There's a link describing the legend. The info can also be found in Exodus. Besides, how do you know, as stated in the article, that God isn't just some ET playing the part? Or that the bible isn't just a bunch of mumbo jumbo. The bible certainly Doesn't disprove the ET theory. The Ark legend itself shows signs of Radioactive material within the Ark.

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  • That's complete speculation and wild theories. The hair and fingernail loss is not in the bible. And the other points are straight out of the writers imagination, not from the bible. And the bible says that God is eternal so that rules out the et theory, because an et would still be subject to natural laws, thus not eternal. The bible explains that God wanted the ark handled and cared for in a certain way and when people disobeyed they were judged. Anything else is futile speculation.

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  • The image of God is eternal.

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  • No sir, that is not what the bible teaches.

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  • It doesn't teach different either. Maybe God is just the thought in some minds? That would make him eternal. That would make it so we can't be God.

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  • It does teach different. Jesus is God and he physically entered into the world.

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  • It never says Jesus is God.

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  • Oh yes it does.

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  • Where? Where does it say, literally, that Jesus is God.

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  • Here's a couple, but there are more. http://bible.com/100/exo.3.14.nasb God said to Moses, " I AM WHO I AM"; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'" http://bible.com/100/jhn.8.58.nasb Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." http://bible.com/100/jhn.1.1-14.nasb In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

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  • Edited by CybrWyteTygr: 9/7/2015 12:23:33 AM
    The new testament was written in the age of the Vetician, therefore, it contains bias in favor of the creed. Exodus however, doesn't say anything that directly proves the trinity. Using New testament on me is no better than if a mormon tries to use the BoM to argue with you.

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