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8/27/2015 12:49:04 PM
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Evolution isn't a proven fact. And evolution doesn't disprove God or the bible.
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Here is where the argument ends. I will not argue with someone who rejects a proven fact with loads more evidence than the entirety of their religious text, have a good day.
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You know what they say about assumptions... I didn't reject evolution, but it's not a proven fact. It's highly agreed upon speculation. And again, it doesn't disprove God or his role as the creator. Evolution is a mechanism.
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Evolution is a fact that's not debatable.
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No it's not.
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Correct it's not debatable.
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So is evolution a fact? If by "evolution" one simply means "evolution #1," i.e. small-scale change over time within a species, then evolution is indeed a fact. No one disputes this kind of "evolution." Thus when Johnjoe McFadden states that "[s]cientists have measured evolutionary changes in scores of organisms" and therefore evolution "is as much a fact as gravity or erosion," he is stating the obvious because he is simply referring to evolution #1. But Dr. McFadden is pulling a bait-and-switch: he is using relatively trivial examples of evolution #1 to bolster more controversial definitions of "evolution." Thus if by "evolution" one means universal common descent (evolution #2), or neo-Darwinian evolution (evolution #3), where the primary adaptive force building the complexity of life is unguided natural selection acting upon random mutations, then many scientists would argue that such "evolution" most certainly is not a fact. http://www.discovery.org/a/6401
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You need to look up speciation, natural selection and evolution you are blurring the three under one title of evolution.
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No you are. You say evolution is a fact, but the only part that is a fact is small adaptation that happens over a short period of time. The other aspects are not fact, just like the link that I posted says.
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I have a masters degree on this I know what I am taking about what you refer to as neodarwinism evolution is natural selection and speciation is the process of how [b]evolution[/b] can lead to the development of 2 species from one. My claim is correct evolution is fact. You are arguing against other processes not evolution.
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Only changes that occur in a short period of time can be observed. Anything outside of that is speculation and inference, it is not fact.
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Evolution is a single nucleotide polymorphism (mutation) that has a phenotypic change to the organism that provides a fitness benefit for that individual.
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I understand that and that aspect is a fact, I'm not arguing that. But the theory that that mechanism gave rise to every living thing is not a fact. And common descent is an integral part of the the theory of evolution and it is also not a fact. Therefore as a whole, the theory of evolution is not a fact.
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Right what u agreed with is evolution thats what I am trying to get across to you. You have the rest reversed evolution is the mechanism behind or the backbone to those processes.
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And that's precisely what isn't a fact. There is no observable proof that said mechanism can produce all the varieties of life that we have.
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Never said that I said evolution was a fact
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I was talking about the theory of evolution as a whole.
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More agreed upon than demons.... but you got no problem with that? Ugh, enjoy the dark ages, man. You know, the technology you take for granted every day that let's you post ignorant stuff like this is real miracles we've achieved through science. And believing any other religions deity is a demon just exposes your background of indoctrination.
