In regards to dismissing the people I named: I was not referring to them and asking you to believe them, I was asking you to listen to what they had to say and make your own informed deductions. By your reasoning, I can't listen to anything an atheist scientist has to say because they support an opposing position. Which just further demonstrates what I said to you many times: you aren't interested in truth, you seek only to justify your presuppositions. Truth is truth, no matter the source. And you continue to show that you are willingly ignorant.