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Lmao, dude, I addressed the issue. I PROVED with observable science how energy can be formed from nothing (which you state was before the universe) and explain why it works with the laws of Thermodynamics and WHY the second law of Thermodynamics would have no effect. I do not require energy beforehand with this, I do not require time, nor a God, nor worry about entropy. My logic is observable science that CREATES an infinite amount of energy from nothing. This is from not "space", but from probability. It could turn into a universe, an apple, or even you with or without a little oxygen or nitrogen or methane bubble to breathe. You mention an uncaused cause. Yet also that you cannot have something that always existed. Yet use God and say he already has. See the contradiction here? Either stick with your own imposed rules, or don't try to use it! You can only either believe that an uncaused cause is possible and you STILL have to agree that entropy wouldn't kill the universe due to my Creation Principle, as we'll call it for argument's sake.
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  • Ok. Did you witness the creation of something from nothing with your own eyes.

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  • Yeah, I actually have seen live NASA broadcasts of telescopes pointed at black holes and firing this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrophysical_jet Now have you ever physically witnessed God creating a mountain or tree with his physical hands?

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  • So they fired a phenomenon at a disc and matter emitted out of something that is made of matter

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  • From a black hole's centre where nothing is able to escape. That means the energy of the object is infinite. Read my original thing to understand what that means

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  • And this only occurs in a black hole, yes. And a black hole is an object that has such a great mass that it collapses on itself in a constant cycle neither gaining nor losing mass unless mass is to enter the black hole, yes.

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  • Mass Mass =/= energy Hawking Radiation is evidence for this and also those astro jets

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  • Then his does it achieve an infinite amount of energy if it is limited by the amount of mass given. Also explain the last terms in your own words. Wikipedia is always confusing

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  • The black hole itself doesn't attain infinite energy, but rather the shite flying out of it, bruh. It's like...ludicrous speed from the centre of a tear in space and time Astro jets = Death star but fires out of two directions. Comes from centre of black hole and fuks shite up Hawking Radiation = radiation that travels faster than light Reason it does this is because the information is considered random (meaning you can't download porn off it, sadly) and isn't bound by the little tidbit that you can't create an infinite amount of energy from nothing

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  • But am I correct in assuming that the Black hole is a necessary part of the process.

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  • Kinda not really-ish It's the massive gravity well that allows us to observe these infinite energy things It's like a rainbow. Water isn't needed to see a rainbow (could use a prism), but it helps immensely

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  • Then it is the faster than light beam that creates infinite energy. Of not, in your simplest way explain what does.

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  • Nah, that's true That was just proof discovered and thought through to break the First Law and ultimately leads me to believe a supported reason as to why the universe came to be

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  • So if it is the faster than light beam that can only be brought to speed by the force of a black hole slinging it out of its inescapable gravity ( which I am fine with because of the objects faster than light speed) the there must have been a black hole in existence to speed up the object and even if a black hole is not require to speed up the object, the faster than light object must have first been in existence in order create an infinite amount of energy. I have no problem with your concept but it could not have been a factor in the creation of the universe.

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  • No, the black hole itself cannot sling the object out past the event horizon with any know velocity or method. The gravity well cannot accelerate an object past light speed. These beams gain energy constantly and on a ludicrous scale to constantly accelerate faster than time itself. The only thing required is Gamma Radiation and a gravity well, and neither are physical objects. The concept is to prove that energy can be created from nothing and that physics is stranger than fiction. That everything in our universe is insane and life can be randomly spawned by chance accident all at once, not at all, and sometimes but not always forever

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  • But it cannot be created from nothing without something. Gamma radiation and a gravity well,although as you claim are not physical objects, are required to create the infinite energy.

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  • Gamma radiation doesn't come from anything...well, it doesn't HAVE to. Gamma radiation is really just random fluctuations in Nothingness but CAN be created by something. Kinda the principle behind: "[i]All rectangles are squares, but not all squares are rectangles[/i]" Gravity wells aren't a needed thing. Gravity wells are just the food dye that you put in a glass of water so you can see the currents underneath. (I'm kinda impressed with myself lmao that was a perfect explanation). It's what makes this Hawking Radiation phenomenon visible. All you need is Gamma rad (which, I would say, is just [i]barely[/i] a thing of electromagnetism) which is everywhere...and nowhere...at all points in time, if it breaks lightspeed...

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  • Fluctuations of what?

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  • Probability, time, space, anything that isn't something or concrete 0.0 What if they were our emotions and our ideas resonating throughout existence?!

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  • But am I correct in assuming that the Black hole is a necessary part of the process.

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